Intercooler Location Recommendations For Everyone.
If at all possible, install your aftermarket intercooler BEHIND THE A/C CONDENSOR!
I had wonderful, cold air-conditioning untill I mounted my I/C IN FRONT of my A/C condensor. Now my A/C blows hot air and will not cool one iota. It makes it HOTTER in the cab when you turn it on. (It works marginally when the truck is sitting idling, but once you start moving, all the cold air dissappears. Yes, refrigerant charge is "OK" and everything is working. I've checked it, and, I had it checked to see if I made a mistake.)
The HOT air comming off the I/C is flowing over the A/C condensor. The air off the I/C is so hot that it will not allow the refrigerant to condense the way it is supposed to. Ergo, the A/C cannot function as the refrigerant cannot shed heat thru the condensor and condense the way it is supposed to. (The I/C also restricts the air flow over the A/C condensor somewhat.) This is my opinion, and, it was the opinion of the A/C tech that checked my A/C.
I am a trained commercial, residential and mobile A/C and heating service technician. I have my EPA Universal Technician License, and my EPA Section 609 License. I am not "Mr. Know-It-All" but I do have some idea of what I am talking about. The refrigerant cannot shed heat because the temp of the outside air passing over the condensor is too close to, or above, the temp of the refrigerant. There is not enough of a differance to allow efficient heat transfer.
I had read discussions of this topic before, and I started to mount my I/C behind the A/C condensor, but decided that that would be too much trouble. That was a serious mistake.
Take my advice, and find a way to get that I/C behind the A/C condensor.
Here in Houston, I would much rather have A/C than a cooler air charge to my engine.
You can guess my next projects.....The A/C heater hose mod, and, moving my I/C and A/C condensor.
Good Luck,
Mark
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Thats intresting, I mounted my 6.0 IC very simular to the way you did and am just getting ready to install the pipes so I I assume I will have the same problem.
How is the IC mounted on the SD's?
tgorsuch
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If at all possible, install your aftermarket intercooler BEHIND THE A/C CONDENSOR!
I had wonderful, cold air-conditioning untill I mounted my I/C IN FRONT of my A/C condensor. Now my A/C blows hot air and will not cool one iota. It makes it HOTTER in the cab when you turn it on. (It works marginally when the truck is sitting idling, but once you start moving, all the cold air dissappears. Yes, refrigerant charge is "OK" and everything is working. I've checked it, and, I had it checked to see if I made a mistake.)
The HOT air comming off the I/C is flowing over the A/C condensor. The air off the I/C is so hot that it will not allow the refrigerant to condense the way it is supposed to. Ergo, the A/C cannot function as the refrigerant cannot shed heat thru the condensor and condense the way it is supposed to. (The I/C also restricts the air flow over the A/C condensor somewhat.) This is my opinion, and, it was the opinion of the A/C tech that checked my A/C.
I am a trained commercial, residential and mobile A/C and heating service technician. I have my EPA Universal Technician License, and my EPA Section 609 License. I am not "Mr. Know-It-All" but I do have some idea of what I am talking about. The refrigerant cannot shed heat because the temp of the outside air passing over the condensor is too close to, or above, the temp of the refrigerant. There is not enough of a differance to allow efficient heat transfer.
I had read discussions of this topic before, and I started to mount my I/C behind the A/C condensor, but decided that that would be too much trouble. That was a serious mistake.
Take my advice, and find a way to get that I/C behind the A/C condensor.
Here in Houston, I would much rather have A/C than a cooler air charge to my engine.
You can guess my next projects.....The A/C heater hose mod, and, moving my I/C and A/C condensor.
Good Luck,
Mark
I mounted my I\C like yours and I can hang meat in my truck, granted its not as hot up in N.J. but a few weeks ago it was 95* and my air was cold. I have not touched the a\c since the truck was new, but mine works just as good as it did before the I\C install. Good Luck
Frank
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I mounted a SD intercooler with the Banks pipes on my '97 F250 and I haven't had any problems with my A/C. I live on the East side of Houston with the same weather. I would think that if your A/C wouldn't cool at all because of the heat or air restriction off the I/C then you would have a cooling problem with the radiator also. The only thing I regret about the install is that I should have done it sooner.
I have been concerned about this for the same reasons the OP mentioned. However I had decided not to worry about it since you never hear anyone having problems, since Banks built their kits that way and they are very conservative and the newest one is that the 08 SD 6.4 trucks have the CAC in front of tha AC condenser!
Maybe the OP has a bad fan clutch?
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If at all possible, install your aftermarket intercooler BEHIND THE A/C CONDENSOR!
I had wonderful, cold air-conditioning untill I mounted my I/C IN FRONT of my A/C condensor. Now my A/C blows hot air and will not cool one iota. It makes it HOTTER in the cab when you turn it on. (It works marginally when the truck is sitting idling, but once you start moving, all the cold air dissappears. Yes, refrigerant charge is "OK" and everything is working. I've checked it, and, I had it checked to see if I made a mistake.)
The HOT air comming off the I/C is flowing over the A/C condensor. The air off the I/C is so hot that it will not allow the refrigerant to condense the way it is supposed to. Ergo, the A/C cannot function as the refrigerant cannot shed heat thru the condensor and condense the way it is supposed to. (The I/C also restricts the air flow over the A/C condensor somewhat.) This is my opinion, and, it was the opinion of the A/C tech that checked my A/C.
I am a trained commercial, residential and mobile A/C and heating service technician. I have my EPA Universal Technician License, and my EPA Section 609 License. I am not "Mr. Know-It-All" but I do have some idea of what I am talking about. The refrigerant cannot shed heat because the temp of the outside air passing over the condensor is too close to, or above, the temp of the refrigerant. There is not enough of a differance to allow efficient heat transfer.
I had read discussions of this topic before, and I started to mount my I/C behind the A/C condensor, but decided that that would be too much trouble. That was a serious mistake.
Take my advice, and find a way to get that I/C behind the A/C condensor.
Here in Houston, I would much rather have A/C than a cooler air charge to my engine.
You can guess my next projects.....The A/C heater hose mod, and, moving my I/C and A/C condensor.
Good Luck,
Mark
Something's wrong somewhere Mark and I dont think it's the location of your CAC. My 6.0 cooler has been in front of the condensor for the last 2 summers in Arizona and I never had a problem with the A/C, even with 115-120 degree days.
You could try Bob's AC mod. (Dieselsite) But check the fan clutch too.
I have run both with and without the fan. Without, at stops/red lights, the AC would blow hot, but running down the road, it's cold. Mark, are you heating up like that? If so, then it's your fan. My 2c's.
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I agree ... something isn't right. Do your controls work correctly?? Is is possible you knocked off a vacuum line or something during the install and the blend door is letting hot air in? Fan clutch is also a possibility.
You didn't say in your post if it gets cold at highway speed or not or if there was any difference idle vs moving.
Lord I left a piece of cardboard on the front of a radiator one time to protect it and forgot to remove it pre final install ... couldn't for the life of me figure out why the damn thing would overheat ... haha .. ooops.
It's probably something simple. There are too many others with this mod that haven't reported any problems.
Hey Mark...Sorry to hear of your troubles but I have to agree with the rest of the guys also...My SD cooler is mounted in front of everything...It approached 110*F here today and the AC blew cold as ever idle all the way up to freeway speeds. It does get a little cooler as I increase RPM and thus turn the fan faster, but still cold at idle even.
Absolutely you have something else going on. The IC doesn't dump heat in from of the condenser except under boost condition. So it would make no difference at idle or light throttle. My AC is plenty cold here in central Texas. This includes during 100*+ weather towing a 6k lb trailer with chip, oversize injectors and lots of boost going through the IC which IS in front of the AC condenser.
Leave the IC alone and look further for the problem.
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