Nervous about getting Line-X after new paint - Diesel Forum

Jerry Miller · 08-03-2008, 10:58 PM

I should be getting my truck back in a week or 2. I plan to get another spray in bedliner put in, after I let the paint cure for a few months. However, I have seen a handful of trucks where the razor tape they use actually pulls the paint off the truck (at least the clearcoat) when they unmask! I have seen this on my truck when it had the Vortex (CRAP) spray in liner, and my buddy has a Dodge with a Line-x liner that did the same thing. His truck was the factory paint, and mine was a repair.
So, how many of you have had paint damage from getting a liner put in? And how many of you have had no problems, especially with a liner over a repainted bedrail.
Thanks,
Jerry

xero-xero · 08-03-2008, 11:33 PM

Paint (urethane) usually takes about 30 days to cure completely. as far as geting razor blades close to paint, have them unmask it when its wet. save a bunch of crap...

BigBopper · 08-04-2008, 02:10 PM

Hi Jerry,

I just had mine Line-Xed. The paint was was 3-4 weeks old but the interior of the box was original paint (the Line-X guy said it would provide the best adhesion). All the areas that had to be masked was fresh paint, and I was really nervous about the paint pulling with the tape too. It completely depends on how well the prep was done prior to painting and how long the paint has had to cure. I would leave it for at least a month.
I had no issues and am very happy with the result.

Good luck!!

rednexx · 08-04-2008, 02:45 PM

I use to spray boxliners. We would mask with a wire tape. The fine wire is imbeded into the tape, and that it what's used to 'cut' the clean line at the edges. There are no razors invoved in de-masking.
As for the tape pulling the fresh paint off, yes it can and has happened. The tape is VERY sticky and has to be. The coating comes out of the gun (or is processed) at about 2000#'s and a minimum of 160*F. The product is dry to the touch in about 5 seconds, so de-masking when it is still wet isn't an option. If the masking is not done absolutely perfect, or the wire tape comes off, your looking at a new paint job. NOTHING will take it off except sandpaper or a grinder.
So to make a long story short, wait until your paint is fully cured and hope the paint guys did a good prep job prior to your paint job.
Like I said I used to do this.
+/- $500.00 sell for the job
+/- $300.00 cost for materials if the proper amout of product is used
4-5 hours labour - prep, spray, de-mask
$2-3000 liability for any overspray potential! Not a real money maker in my eyes!!!!!!

**mattski** · 08-04-2008, 10:47 PM

So to make a long story short, wait until your paint is fully cured and hope the paint guys did a good prep job prior to your paint job.

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Mattski

Jerry Miller · 08-07-2008, 06:00 PM

Thanks guys. For those of you that used to spray these in, I talked to Line-X (corporate) and they said they sometimes put down blue painters tape, and then the wire tape over this. Anyone here think this would be a good idea or bad?
Jerry

**mattski** · 08-07-2008, 06:33 PM

I don't think it's so much a question of what kind of tape goes on the paint as how long the paint has had to cure and how well the prep was. Depending on what you put in the back of your truck there are some pretty good products out there that you could do yourself for a fraction of the cost of the LINE-X.
If the bed has already been prepped then the hard part is already done. All you need is a Schutz gun ($30 at most paint stores) and a nice sunny weekend. Make sure you go with a catalyzed product though, not a moisture cure. All depends what you are using the back of your truck for.

Mattski

rednexx · 08-07-2008, 09:44 PM

I think the painters tape would be a good idea. The only downside i could see, would be that the blue tape doesn't stick very well (from my experience) and that spraying somthing at the pressures and volumes that this stuff comes out at, I wouldn't be comfortable myself doing the job.
This is just my opinion, and these liners are sprayed everyday, all over the continent with not too many problems...or they wouldn't be in business.
I own my own business spraying other products as well (polyurethane foam), and I don't like to screw up.
Maybe I'm just a little tooooooo cautious.
If you like the product, tell your local line-x dealer your concerns, and I'm sure they will do their best to make you happy.

BigBopper · 08-07-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Miller

Thanks guys. For those of you that used to spray these in, I talked to Line-X (corporate) and they said they sometimes put down blue painters tape, and then the wire tape over this. Anyone here think this would be a good idea or bad?
Jerry

That's what they did to address my concerns about the wire tape over my fresh paint. It turned out great, no peeling and a nice clean edge.

chadmathison · 08-07-2008, 11:28 PM

Hi Guy's, I would like to add my .02$ to the post. I have owned and opperated an ArmorThane dealership for the last 4 yrs and I have seen alot! As far as the new paint, I have had some pull second layers of paint or repaints loose. I would definitely wait a month or more for the paint to cure all the way through! The tape is always used for your liner edge, then wire tape to do the triming, but the (blue) painters tape is for household projects, and as stated earlier the liner product is coming out hot due to the chemical reaction to each other. I had to use the blue tape to finish out a job on a sunday and found out that the heat will make the tape adhere almost beyond removal. We have always used 3M 233+ body masking tape and have had no problems in over 5000 liners! There are alot of DIY systems out there for the guy who does not want to spend $500, but you get what you payfor. In my honest opinion, and what I am doing today, I would use the truck the way you want to, use a rubber liner if you are abusive, and have it sprayed a few weeks before trade in or a sale, but please use a good urethane liner when you do have it done. Chad

RonKZ650 · 08-08-2008, 10:10 PM

From what I've seen in repaints even if you wait a year the paint is fragile to say the least. Of course I'm only 47 years old, and have a limited exposure to these things

, but I've seen many a crappy repaint, and rarely a repaint that looks right initially let alone a few years (months, weeks), down the road. So if it was me really I wouldn't worry about tape, because if tape removes the paint, it will all remove itself in short order anyway.