Can I upgrade to stage 1 injectors without any other mods like increased HPOP flow or a performance chip? In other words will my stock truck with 212K most likely run stage 1's ok assuming the HPOP and fuel pump are up to snuff?
Yes, without a chip stage 1's will perforn jusk like a stock injector. With a chip you may have to upgrade to a SD HPOP to keep from setting the CEL. The stock fuel system will support stage 1's with no problem.
That's correct. Stage 1's use stock nozzles and unless you have a chip that calls for more pulse width they will still flow the same amount of fuel as stockers.
I have BDP Stage I's in my truck that is basically stock. There is no issues in anyway with them. Truck runs great. My next upgrade will be to the 17* HPOP.
When I put them in my truck it seemed like I have much better acceleration but that might be due to a couple weak injectors.
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Todd
AKA Toad
1995 Ford F250 7.3L, auto stock 390,000mi, filler neck Mod, 3" DP with test pipe (no cat!), Fumoto oil drain valve, BDP Stage I Injectors, Tymar Intake, DB Electrical High Torque Starter
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 289 4bbl 75,000mi
1988 Honda CRX Si 1.6L stock
1988 Honda CRX 1.5L stock
1990 Honda CRX 1.5L stock
1991 Honda CRX 1.5L stock
1998 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic
1981 Honda GL500
1995 F350 7.3L Parts Truck
My truck with 215,000 runs out of oil at 28-3000 rpms with stage1's so yes you will need a pump sooner or later.
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97 F-250 H/D 4 door 4X4 6'bed.Broke block building new engine! Oh well it ran14.96 at 89mph at Baytown!
Kenworth T-600 aerodyne 3406c CAT, with 18* "B" modle injection pump(was a freakin peak yuk),10 over trans,4.10 rears,Dual 150 gal. fuel tanks,Budwieser inspired custom hot rod flames.Going to work real soon Leasing to Landstar yeah!
89 mustang coupe single turbo 302 ,built c-4,running little rubber.
I hate Dodges, straight piped common rail cummings sound like crap!
This is good news since all eight injectors are being done right now. I didn't think I'd have any issues but wanted to run it by the experts.
Things have to be happening out of the ordinary for me to reach 3K RPM, I drive around like a grandpa, I'm thinking about killin a feline and going straight pipe so if this thing sounds like some I've heard then I may find it hard to resist the temptation to goose it a little once in a while.
Hey I have 4.10 gears it gets to rpm quick.Even with bigger than stock tires. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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97 F-250 H/D 4 door 4X4 6'bed.Broke block building new engine! Oh well it ran14.96 at 89mph at Baytown!
Kenworth T-600 aerodyne 3406c CAT, with 18* "B" modle injection pump(was a freakin peak yuk),10 over trans,4.10 rears,Dual 150 gal. fuel tanks,Budwieser inspired custom hot rod flames.Going to work real soon Leasing to Landstar yeah!
89 mustang coupe single turbo 302 ,built c-4,running little rubber.
I hate Dodges, straight piped common rail cummings sound like crap!
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This is good news since all eight injectors are being done right now. I didn't think I'd have any issues but wanted to run it by the experts.
Things have to be happening out of the ordinary for me to reach 3K RPM, I drive around like a grandpa, I'm thinking about killin a feline and going straight pipe so if this thing sounds like some I've heard then I may find it hard to resist the temptation to goose it a little once in a while.
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Do you have after market down pipe. if not at least get one of those or you will have egt problems.
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1995 F-350, Auto (stock), 4x4, Crewcab, Longbed, 4" superlift, 35" BFG's All Terrains, E12000 Milemarker Winch, 5" miter stacks, 160cc Injectors, Shimmed FPR, Tymar Intake, Tyamr HPX, 7.3L Intercooler , 6.0L Tranny Cooler(Thanks Jon), ISSPRO Guages Trany/Boost/Pyro, Built tranny in garage being built.
I second the downpipe. The exhaust and intake on these trucks pretty much suck in stock form. You neeeeed to upgrade both of these BEFORE you get a chip.
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1997 F250 HD 4x4 5speed Reg Cab, 4" MBRP exhaust, 1.0 turbo housing, Tymar Intake , 17* HPOP,Swamps 150cc, TW 4 position chip, Dana 60 w/RSK, Crossover steering, sittin on 35's
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I have BDP Stage I's in my truck that is basically stock. There is no issues in anyway with them. Truck runs great. My next upgrade will be to the 17* HPOP.
When I put them in my truck it seemed like I have much better acceleration but that might be due to a couple weak injectors.
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My results exactly. The truck improved with new stage 1's and no chip. Dale I from TYMAR will tell you fueling WILL increase with stage 1's. and stock program. I kinda believe it was old worn injectors vs new crisp ones.....
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Mine: 91 F250 Reg Cab 4x4 5spd 7.3IDI 4.10LS 145,000 miles. Banks Sidewinder 92 D60 F axle w 97 brakes and Powerlock. Lift: about 4" over stock 250. 33x12.50x16.5 Pro Comp MTs Magnaflow 12" muffler. Sees dirt everyday. Used to haul hay, wood, feed cows, check fence.
Hers: 96F250 CCSB 7.3 PSD 4x4 5spd 3.55 LS 190,000 miles. Puchased 7/03, Looked for a 5spd CCSB for a year!Dana 60 front axle, at stock F350 height (for now) Energy Poly bushings, Bilsteins, 305/70/16 Pro Comps on 16x10 Weld Outbacks, AFE Pro7,TYMAR 3x3.5x4 downpipe,TYMAR 5" straightpipe, gutted EBV, IH Non EBV pedistal,New Alliant AC Injectors,(stage 1)Cal reg kit, SBC Con O clutch, permenent clutch bushing fix, AC mod with a different twist, AMP Powersteps with custom brackets and wiring(one of 2 OBS trucks with them according to AMP) Line of Fire. Sees dirt everyday.
My Company pickup: 86 F250 6.9 C6 320,000 miles Co trucks 5 89 to 94 IDI's, plus about 50 more diesels.
Diesel Mechanic 28 yrs
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I have BDP Stage I's in my truck that is basically stock. There is no issues in anyway with them. Truck runs great. My next upgrade will be to the 17* HPOP.
When I put them in my truck it seemed like I have much better acceleration but that might be due to a couple weak injectors.
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I have BDP Stage I's in my truck that is basically stock. There is no issues in anyway with them. Truck runs great. My next upgrade will be to the 17* HPOP.
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When I put them in my truck it seemed like I have much better acceleration but that might be due to a couple weak injectors.
My results exactly. The truck improved with new stage 1's and no chip. Dale I from TYMAR will tell you fueling WILL increase with stage 1's. and stock program. I kinda believe it was old worn injectors vs new crisp ones.....
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Mine: 91 F250 Reg Cab 4x4 5spd 7.3IDI 4.10LS 145,000 miles. Banks Sidewinder 92 D60 F axle w 97 brakes and Powerlock. Lift: about 4" over stock 250. 33x12.50x16.5 Pro Comp MTs Magnaflow 12" muffler. Sees dirt everyday. Used to haul hay, wood, feed cows, check fence.
Hers: 96F250 CCSB 7.3 PSD 4x4 5spd 3.55 LS 190,000 miles. Puchased 7/03, Looked for a 5spd CCSB for a year!Dana 60 front axle, at stock F350 height (for now) Energy Poly bushings, Bilsteins, 305/70/16 Pro Comps on 16x10 Weld Outbacks, AFE Pro7,TYMAR 3x3.5x4 downpipe,TYMAR 5" straightpipe, gutted EBV, IH Non EBV pedistal,New Alliant AC Injectors,(stage 1)Cal reg kit, SBC Con O clutch, permenent clutch bushing fix, AC mod with a different twist, AMP Powersteps with custom brackets and wiring(one of 2 OBS trucks with them according to AMP) Line of Fire. Sees dirt everyday.
My Company pickup: 86 F250 6.9 C6 320,000 miles Co trucks 5 89 to 94 IDI's, plus about 50 more diesels.
Diesel Mechanic 28 yrs
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Do you have after market down pipe. if not at least get one of those or you will have egt problems.
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I was under there today putting the Cat back on looking at that flat P.O.S. hanging there wishing I had one to put on, but, I gotta pace my spending. A guy can rap a whole lot of green up in one of these trucks in a hurry!
The injectors are on thier way home, I'll let ya'll know how they fire.
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