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Old 07-10-2007, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Transfer Case

I need to buy a new/used transfer case for my truck. I have been searching around and keep coming up with a Warner 1356 or Warner 4407. Can someone help to as to which one is used for our trucks. I also want it to be a manual transfer case, not electric.

Or any good suggestions of alternative transfer cases or where to purchase. This is just a tow vehicle no off roading will be done.
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Re: Transfer Case

94-95 used 1356, 96-97 used 4407.

is you have a slip joint it should be 1356, if you have a flange output it should be 4407
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Re: Transfer Case

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94-95 used 1356, 96-97 used 4407.

is you have a slip joint it should be 1356, if you have a flange output it should be 4407

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Considering a transmission is going to be replace also is there a better combo over the other? Or is one transfer case stronger?

Any E4OD trans has same bolt pattern to the motor correct?
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Re: Transfer Case

I'm curious as to the functional differences too. My understanding is the 4407 uses some type of viscous clutch?
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Re: Transfer Case

Are our transfer cases, gear driven or chain driven?
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Re: Transfer Case


Todd,

Since your truck is a 1995, you've most likely got the BW 1356 T-case. The transfer-cases are all chain driven since the end of the cast-iron NP 205, which I believe occured around the very late 70s/early 80s. The Borg-Warner 1356 has proven to be a good transfer-case, however, be careful to use a torque wrench to install the drain and fill plugs as the magnesium case will crack if the plugs are over-torqued. Also, I prefer to run synthetic ATF in the T-case as it is more tolerant of the conditions the T-case will see, compared to regular ATF.

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Re: Transfer Case 4wd Conversion

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Todd,

Since your truck is a 1995, you've most likely got the BW 1356 T-case. The transfer-cases are all chain driven since the end of the cast-iron NP 205, which I believe occured around the very late 70s/early 80s. The Borg-Warner 1356 has proven to be a good transfer-case, however, be careful to use a torque wrench to install the drain and fill plugs as the magnesium case will crack if the plugs are over-torqued. Also, I prefer to run synthetic ATF in the T-case as it is more tolerant of the conditions the T-case will see, compared to regular ATF.

Hope it helps,
K.N.

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Indeed it does help!!!! Thank you very much. Just trying to soak all the info up that I can. Don't want to get the wrong thing and waste money.

Even though I am only towing I wanted to make sure there wasn't an upgrade that was close in price and easy bolt on like that NP205. I just want to make sure it is a proven piece.


I have been a bit deceptive in my questions. I am converting my truck to 4wd. It is not an option for me to sell and buy another, and I am attached to the old girl. And every thread I have read someone jumps in and yells sell and buy one with 4wd. So I beat around the bush to find my answers.

From my understandings I can swap in basically a F350 axle, steering components and suspension a to get the straight axle like I want. I want a D60 for obvious reasons.

Am I correct in my thinking? I know there is some welding and cutting that must occur but I do not want the IFS.

Again any knowledge on this subject is appreciated.
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Re: Transfer Case 4wd Conversion

Yea a little welding and drilling holes,no big deal.A shackle rev kit will save you alot of fab work up front.When I did mine I picked up a new 1356 from National Drivetrain.
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Re: Transfer Case 4wd Conversion

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Yea a little welding and drilling holes,no big deal.A shackle rev kit will save you alot of fab work up front.When I did mine I picked up a new 1356 from National Drivetrain.

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Shakle Rev Kit? more info please!!! :-)
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Re: Transfer Case 4wd Conversion

Go study brianshop's photos (link in his sig) and look at CaryT's photos, then search Cary's recent posts, then do a search on RSK, then come back and talk to us in a couple days.........

Don't mean to be an a$$ but all of this stuf has been talked about literally daily for the last couple of years.
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Re: Transfer Case 4wd Conversion

Oh I know it has been covered and I have been searching it all down I just want to make sure I am understanding what I am reading.

You can read posts for hours but if you can't put it together in your head you will likely end up with waste time, money and a busted truck.

Not trying to bust your balls but that is why I started my thread the way I did so I could get some help.

I also search all the above as you said and didn't really find anything specific to conversion. Maybe I need spoon fed a little here but help a brother out.

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Re: Transfer Case 4wd Conversion

does anyone know what the gear ratio is for a 4407 t-case? I am trying to figure out our final drive ratio. thanks.
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Re: Transfer Case

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Considering a transmission is going to be replace also is there a better combo over the other? Or is one transfer case stronger?

Any E4OD trans has same bolt pattern to the motor correct?

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No, the transmission must be from a diesel. The older it is the weaker the design is. Exception is one that has been updated, but you will need the diesel case.
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