who has done the hx-50 mod? - Diesel Forum

andrew974x4 · 06-29-2005, 09:49 PM

i want an hx-50 so i would like to know who has done it and what is involved. and something that i think would be important is, can you turn the outlet of the intake on the hx-50? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] we can on our stockers.

cmichalik · 06-30-2005, 07:19 AM

Um. I know what the HX mod is, but I've never heard of an hx-50. What's that? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

AggiePSD · 06-30-2005, 08:38 AM

A larger turbo. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I think one of the Super Duty guys was running one and had David Lott do some tuning with the truck and said it really ran great. Can't remember his name though.

cmichalik · 06-30-2005, 01:15 PM

Ahhh. Gotcha. Im just a poor boy, so I usually stay away from posts about turbo mods.

TravisT · 07-01-2005, 04:27 PM

Andrew,

Travis (MoreMPH) knows a lot about turbos. You should ask him or hopefully he will respond. He's the guy with the giant turbo sitting next to the little one for a signature picture.

Moremph · 07-01-2005, 04:49 PM

i dont know about knowing alot about turbos, but i know a little.

Basically the hx 50 is somewhat similar in overall dimensions of the h2e and flows roughly the same air. Now you can have a hybrid 50 made from one of the many turbo vendors, I recomend JR ADKINS [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img], and get an increase in overall flow/performance

These style turbos are not a direct bolt on. They require custom flanges up pipes, down pipes, oil feed and return as well as intercooler/y pipe. If one was to get a h2e pedistal kit you could prolly bolt a hybrid 50 in place of the h2e and have a better charger.

I would expect the hx50 to perform somehwat similar to the current h2e style chargers out thier. Depending on which variant of the hx 50 you had it could act like a quickspol, a standard h2e or maybe even get up into the performance range of the sledgehammer.

Hope some of this rambling helps

Travis

Suns_PSD · 07-01-2005, 05:10 PM

I have an HX50 hybrid mounted on a Swamp's turbo mount kit which is sort of a copy of a Hypermax kit.

The turbo is a (as I understand it) an HX50 inducer, an H2E body, and a 17mm exhaust housing.

The H2E body allows it to bolt right up.
The HX50 inducer flows about 15-20% more air efficently than a H2E
The 17mm exhaust housing spools quicker, similiar to a quickspool.

The turbo is one bad ass piece of metal if you ask me and it might be one of the few mods to this truck that I end up just leaving alone for awhile.

I paid about $850 for it brand new from the builder. If you need to get in touch w/ him just PM me. He can also modify an existing H2e for much improved performance for a bit less $.

TravisT · 07-01-2005, 05:10 PM

Pfffffffffbbt. See? What'd I tell ya?

Hey Travis, answer my question about the Aurora I posted yesterday if you have time. And tell us more about that Sledgehammer!!

Powerstroke2000 · 07-01-2005, 05:24 PM

Thanks for that Suns!

Would you possibly know where the HX55 stands in the crowd of turbo's? Now...one thing I've heard, and perhaps someone could fill us all in...is that some of the HX line of turbo's have a different bearing...or is the a different SIZE of bearing..or shaft?
Also...something that I thought Beddin's said once (correct me if I'm wrong) that the "shaft" on the HX 50 was smaller than...was it the HX 55 or the H2E?

For those that are planning on BIG mods in the future, having a turbo that is going to stand up to the forces you are going to be putting upon it is important...in making the correct choice!
This of course is assuming mods are in the mix, as these HX options really aren't needed for the stock PSD, and may even show significant lag on a stock engine.

In the "high end" mods, lately there has been a couple of H2E's that have basically blown apart, which makes me wonder if the housings might just have been suspect on a couple of them...or possibly all...where excess boost pressures just won't hold on these turbo's? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
The "Garrett" brand of turbo's (mainly the BB turbos) haven't seem to have been having this same issue, but they have had their share of problems with the odd customer too.

As far as I know though...Holset in general, make a good turbo, and our stock Garretts have held up well too!

Dale

caryt · 07-01-2005, 08:49 PM

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I have an HX50 hybrid mounted on a Swamp's turbo mount kit which is sort of a copy of a Hypermax kit.

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Is this Mount Kit still being sold [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img], I don't see it on his web site. Can you say how $$, PM if necessary [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Cary

andrew974x4 · 07-02-2005, 05:00 PM

thanks alot for all the responses, i am interested in that hybrid ~50. i'll pm you suns. i have alot of engine work to do this month and it is going to start tonight as i figure out the full extent of damage done to the motor, gonna take alot of beer to keep the reality of pulling the motor out of my head [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Moremph · 07-03-2005, 02:15 PM

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I have an HX50 hybrid mounted on a Swamp's turbo mount kit which is sort of a copy of a Hypermax kit.

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Is this Mount Kit still being sold [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img], I don't see it on his web site. Can you say how $$, PM if necessary [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Cary

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We have made a few of them for customers that are not at the shop (ie suns etc) We could build one for you but it all boils down to time. So if you were to order one today it may be a month or more before we had the time to put one together for you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Plus we ran into some issues when SUNS was built, thier are diffrences in manifolds from year to year and our setup is built without the adjustability that the factory and h2e kits have with them so it makes it harder to get it perfect the first time without the truck sitting in our shop. That is why we in general only build them when we are building a whole motor package.

Hope that answered your ? Travis

Suns_PSD · 07-03-2005, 06:16 PM

I didn't realize that Swamp & co. ever started producing these turbo kits.

It turned out that the manifolds come in a couple of different configs. When I went to bolt mine on one up pipe went straight on and the other was quite a bit off. I got it worked out but keep in mind that I'm just an internet mechanic. Lots of theoretical understanding but little practical experience. (truth is that when I bought my truck abut 4 years ago I did not even know where the fuel filter was!)

The HX50 input shaft is considerably smaller than the H2e. But it also flows more air and spools up quicker. It's my understanding that the H2e is really old turbo technology and it is only made for Hypermax at this point. I was told that my turbo flows approximately 1200 cfms at 70% efficiency while the H2e is closer 970 cfms or so.

Hope that helps.

The breakage usually occurs if you chop the throttle real quick like after a really hard run. Just tale 1/2 a second to back off the throttle.