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Old 07-28-2008, 10:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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...I just thought it would behouve any one to really question the manufacurer since we are becoming an "old" technology in the automotive realm.
Couldn't agree more. Fortunately, about the only parts that are subject to normal detieration on my ATS are 3 CDR to airbox rubber adapters and they happen to be the ones I ordered to keep in stock. The only other one is the air box to turbo intake rubber duct that fails prematurely and I replaced that years ago with the rubberized fabric type that's used on big diesels and last forever.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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C'mon you greeenies can't you rant somewhere else?
Being as I spent a number of years driving a logging truck up and down some of the most steepest, scariest mountain country in the nation, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who knows me that would call me a "greenie". And at that time I can't recall myself or any other real truck drivers that were impressed with "rolling coal". Trying to out-pull each other on the long grades on the way to the mills, that's another story.
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I live about 20 minutes from Banks. I have been there and talked to "them" and I was told as of 2008 Jan. They no longer would be selling early chevy or Ford turbo kits but... Anything you bought before that date would be supported for 5 years. Now here we are and its the end of July and they are still selling the kits.... I dont't know why they would tell me that in Dec. of 07 if it wasn't true. I have still gone up there and bought parts and they are still selling complete kits... How long I wouldn't care to guess. I like most enjoy the trueth... But when someone tells me something that is just about 8 months from being true I look very closely at them the next time they tell me anything.... Banks is a very good company. Thay have done their homework and the market is telling them the computer trucks are the best market to tap into for sales... Better to move with the flow than stay too long and go under... We still have the better motors. I have a friend with a Ford 6.0.... What a pos... Its block is cracked now in Grant New Mexico after pelnty of bad luck in Reno last week.. She has an 8 horse trailer full and needs to be on the road buy this Sunday.... Its doughtfull she will be driving it home... She hopes Ford will give her another truck because of the Lemon Law.... Good luck is all I can say on that one....
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I just wanted to say, I should give a crap about our atmosphere, but I don't. Therefor my diesel will smoke and "roal coal" pollute our atmosphere while I run trees over. C'mon you greeenies can't you rant somewhere else? Go to a rice burner forum and thank them for being so clean. Then you can thank the 90 percent of them that are Mexican for taking our jobs. And if I waste gas, that's my problem not yours.
"greenies" very nice

Next time you want to waste fuel just bring it to my house and I will use it for you.....

Have fun spending your own money I guess......

Anyhow, I am looking at the Hypermax kit. It seems to be the least intrusive of the 3 big options....and they seem to have the best "street cred" of them all in terms of customer service.....

Good Luck "Rolling Coal"
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Well for what it is worth, and to be realistic here, there is very little difference between say, a non-turbo IDI with a stock pump, and a turbo equipped truck with turned up settings. One polutes more than the other, and gets worse fuel milage all the time, but it may not be the one with the black cloud at the stop sign. Of course there are other things that contribute to increase polution, such as improperly inflated tires, kind of tire, gearing, driving habits, etc. Just because somebody wants to "smoke em' out" now and then, doesn't mean he is a menace to society. Yea, it may look that way, but in reality the guy driving the Toyota Prius has alread consumed more energy and poluted the environment more with the carbon footprint of the factory that built his car, then your IDI will ever come close to contributing to. We are such a minority on the road anymore that we could all blow black smoke all day long and not make a dent in the fabric of time. Just think of how much has been done in this country to clean up the air (mostly at the expense of our wallets), while over in China they polute as freely as they want to, and you go to Wallmart and buy there stuff to support that polution base. If you really have trouble sleeping at night, think about what you can do to change THAT scenario, and don't let the kid who is having a little fun here and there make you think he is the anti-Christ.
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Being as I spent a number of years driving a logging truck up and down some of the most steepest, scariest mountain country in the nation, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who knows me that would call me a "greenie". And at that time I can't recall myself or any other real truck drivers that were impressed with "rolling coal". Trying to out-pull each other on the long grades on the way to the mills, that's another story.
If I cared about what people thought about my truck "roalling coal" then I might think twice but I still would.
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Since we are already off topic.....

I am being looked at as some sort of hippie greenie....VERY Incorrect....just more of a realist!!! I dont see why someone would want to waste diesel being as it is super expensive.

There was no mention of the anti-christ......

It is really simple, as you know. You cant compare unlike quantities. An IDI blowing black smoke is wasting more fuel than when that truck is not blowing black smoke, assuming the same conditions are applied ie speed, tires, gears etc. Comparing a Prius in the mix avoids the original point, wasted fuel, not pollution.

I like driving my IDI just like the rest of you, but I try and make an attempt to be as conservative as possible. I want the most bang for my buck in terms of fuel. Its just that simple.

On the pollution topic, since you gusy brought that up. It just seems that going out of your way to pollute is reckless. Your arguement about the low numbers of IDI's seems off. By that logic I and my buddies could throw trash in your neighborhood at will (ignoring the fact that its illegal), because its fun to me and its not that often, so who cares.

FYI, just because China doesnt give a rats behind about pollution is NOT really a good arguement to make either.....they are communists......lol

Again, as I said in my first post I am not trying to offend and no offense is intended......this is a mature discussion.....mostly, so far.....
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Since we are already off topic.....

I am being looked at as some sort of hippie greenie....VERY Incorrect....just more of a realist!!! I dont see why someone would want to waste diesel being as it is super expensive.

There was no mention of the anti-christ......

It is really simple, as you know. You cant compare unlike quantities. An IDI blowing black smoke is wasting more fuel than when that truck is not blowing black smoke, assuming the same conditions are applied ie speed, tires, gears etc. Comparing a Prius in the mix avoids the original point, wasted fuel, not pollution.

I like driving my IDI just like the rest of you, but I try and make an attempt to be as conservative as possible. I want the most bang for my buck in terms of fuel. Its just that simple.

On the pollution topic, since you gusy brought that up. It just seems that going out of your way to pollute is reckless. Your arguement about the low numbers of IDI's seems off. By that logic I and my buddies could throw trash in your neighborhood at will (ignoring the fact that its illegal), because its fun to me and its not that often, so who cares.

FYI, just because China doesnt give a rats behind about pollution is NOT really a good arguement to make either.....they are communists......lol

Again, as I said in my first post I am not trying to offend and no offense is intended......this is a mature discussion.....mostly, so far.....

I'm not offened I just believe what I do with my truck is me. What you do with yours is you. Obviously we enjoy different things. Comparing blowing smoke to throwing trash is unrealistic. Pollution is not a problem in my eyes and is overated due to media. It's not smoke that hurts the atmosphere thats all bull. We breathe out carbon dioxide and thats what they're saying is ruining this place? I don't think so. If anything I think it is the vast majorities of rainforest's being cut down. But like I said, this isn't a problem I'm worried about.
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[quote=89F350Dually;1603872] Obviously we enjoy different things.[quote]

I agree we enjoy different things.....

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Comparing blowing smoke to throwing trash is unrealistic. Pollution is not a problem in my eyes and is overated due to media. It's not smoke that hurts the atmosphere thats all bull. We breathe out carbon dioxide and thats what they're saying is ruining this place? I don't think so. If anything I think it is the vast majorities of rainforest's being cut down. But like I said, this isn't a problem I'm worried about.
I hope we can agree to disagree......

Good luck making a better rig
(But I still vote to not "roll coal")
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Just a thought

but how did we go from a thread about a TURBO on a 7.3IDI to pollution and "rollin coal"?
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