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94 f-350 can i switch from auto to manual

Hello everyone i am new to this forum.want to know if i can swap out my e4od and install a 5 speed manual in my 94 f350. Its a 7.3 turbo off road 4wd crew cab.my auto has no issues i just want a stick.any info would b appreciated thanks.
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Sure can, you'll need the transmission from a 4WD diesel though, besides the various obvious clutch parts.

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cool thnx for reply.was told that it may not b compatible because of the computer but i figured the computer is irrelevant because a manual transmission is just that manual.now i juss gotta find a 92-96 diesel 4wd to b parted out and get what i need.juss love shifting gears in a diesel.all that power,not to mention all the problems with the e4od even though mine was rebuilt 40,000 miles ago.
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I think the E40D is pretty great when it works, but I agree with you about wanting a manual.

All you have to do to get the full factory setup is change the wiring a little, there's a R/LB wire that comes from the ignition switch and goes through the clutch interlock switch jumper, which gets moved to the clutch interlock switch when you go from E40D to ZF. This wire goes from whichever switch straight to the starter relay.

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good to know,i hate figuring electrical problems on a vehicle.zf is the type of manual trans i need?the last time i done this was in 1988,i was 16 and it was a pinto.a little bigger job here.
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You will want a ZF-5 42 from a 7.3 diesel with 4x4. I *think* the ZF-5 47 (is 47 right? I've never had much of a memory until I really need to know something) from the 7.3 'strokes will also match up, but I'm much less sure about whether it's a straight bolt-on. It has somewhat stronger internals, but it's unlikely to be a problem with an IDI anyway.

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does it have to be 92-96 because the mileage counter was mechanical until 92?i was in a salvage yard yesterday and found a 86 f-350 with the trans in tact with all the components but figured it was too old or i would have snatched it up.
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have to make sure it's not a 4 spd on older trucks. and if you have an extra speedo pickup you can just ignore it.

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how do u put the message quotes at the bottom of your threads.
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easy to do in a pickup, I did in a van , a little more work.. and it works great cost about 1340$ about half of a replacement E4od

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thanks everyone for the valuable info.1 question,wouldent the ecm get flooded with trouble codes and cause the engine to perform poorly because the e4od is electronic and plugged into the ecm.

1994 f-350 crew cab,7.3 turbo diesel k&n ram air,e4od but want a zf5 42.off road 4wd. 5" exhaust stacks.body rebuilt in 2010.
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There is no ECM, IDIs are mechanically regulated and controlled by the IP. There is a TECA (transmission electronic controll assembly) which you can remove if you swap to a manual trans. This is one benefit of not living in powerstroke country.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but, Dont you need a manual trans transfer case and might need the driveshafts too at that point.....dunno.......

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Correct me if I'm wrong but, Dont you need a manual trans
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transfer case and might need the driveshafts too at that point.....dunno.......
I believe you only need to switch the transmission, but I am not 100% sure. There are different transmissions (different tail end) for 4x2 and 4x4. The rear cross member may require relocation. And of course, you need all the clutch equipment. If the cross member moves more than half an inch or so then drive shafts will need work.

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