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Old 02-07-2008, 06:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i have been filtering my umo with filter bags from vegpower.com i filter it just like my wvo and pour it into my tank with no illness to my ip or injectors yet. if you dont have a wvo set up and want to run umo i sugjest if you have a stock fuel set up to:
1. get your hands on some hose clamps and more 3/8 ID fuel line like 3-6 feet (i like the clear stuff its nice!)
2. take a hack saw and cut you metal fuel line after the stock fuel heater and before
your diesel filter.
3. hose clamp your new fuel line to your cut you just made and run it over to the upper radeator hose that comes from the water pump. run it around the that water hose until you are almost out of fuel line and hose clamp the other end to your "in" port of your filter. this will act as a ghetto heat exchanger and boost your fuel temp and make the wmo thiner.
skunk i just bought a heat exchanger and have it sitting on the inner fenderwell. Water circulates through it and fuel does as well so my fuel is being heated before injection just the same as you were doing
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Old 02-07-2008, 06:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I have never attempted it, but for those of you who want a heat exchanger, you could simply use your stock in-radiator heat exchanger for your automatic transmissions. Of course, if you still use it for the tranny, you'd have to reroute it to an auxillary cooler only, which has its own side-effects, but worth a shot, and most likely cheaper and easier.
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I have never attempted it, but for those of you who want a heat exchanger, you could simply use your stock in-radiator heat exchanger for your automatic transmissions. Of course, if you still use it for the tranny, you'd have to reroute it to an auxillary cooler only, which has its own side-effects, but worth a shot, and most likely cheaper and easier.

Just a thought...you could use an aux trans/oil cooler, only attatch it to the engine side of the radiator so it would get heated by the air flowing thru the rad.
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That would work, but not very efficiently- after all, its original design goal was to wick away heat, not soak it in.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:51 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I just put it in one these during 'frost' season.

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Holds 8 gallons of diesel (abouts). I only put a gallon or two mixed w/ the diesel in each to use up the oil.....
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i have been burning used atf for 18 months in a di my friend is burning it in a idi for a year i run 50 to 75 percent year round just had my head off no more carbon than any diesel it looked clean pm me if you have any questions i have pics of the piston and head
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Most make all kinds of comments but have never tried it. Water is more of a problem with wvo than wmo.
all i can say is it works.[/quote] and that right thar is a fact--if some find the truth--theyll be doing it---i started doing this over 4 yrs ago--and showed at a rally doing it--in mich----those there didnt laugh--but asked many questions----and for those that like to blather--your injectors will stand 10 microns--and the ip 5 microns---guess what the fuel filter on your truck is--i aint tellin--find out for yourself--oh blathering ones----
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70% summer 50% winter has worked fine for 30k miles filter it well & separate the water before filling.
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jus got me some filters from friend,,kinda look like a big sock ,,,he uses em for veggie,,,,am gonna do it with my used motor oil,,,,been using old levis,,,,leg tied up,,,,,takes long time like that,,,but filters good,,,,but anwayz thanks for for info,,,,knocks some of the cost down of drivin the ole hoss
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jus got me some filters from friend,,kinda look like a big sock ,,,he uses em for veggie,,,,am gonna do it with my used motor oil,,,,been using old levis,,,,leg tied up,,,,,takes long time like that,,,but filters good,,,,but anwayz thanks for for info,,,,knocks some of the cost down of drivin the ole hoss
I was spending 600 month on a gasser now im spending pennies to run the same mileage with the diesel....
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vegpower.com has filter bags for cheap!
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vegpower.com has filter bags for cheap!
I have bags but went back to water filters. made a progressive filter by putting a few together then just pump through it.
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am wondering something,,,went to a menards in norfolk ne the other day and seen kerosene on sale,,,,what am wondering is after i filter my used (hot) i heat it first oil with the vegie bags can i cut with kerosene to thin it out,,,i know it gets pretty thick when cold so am wondering,,,would still use my special blend of acetone ,,,a lil veggie and some antigel ,,,someone giv me some advice
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Sounds like a good mix.... I dont do wvo but i have. kero as a cutter works but i hear that too much is drying to seals so im no expert there. I havent had any porblems though. theres a whole section of WVO on this site. well its alternative but most talk is wvo. The wmo people are just doing and only talking when they need to heheheheheh. acetone as a friction surface reducer is usually 2oz at 10 gallons. Lots of off board info on this.
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mix in some howes diesel treat from napa. helps alot!
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