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Old 10-17-2005, 11:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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clutch linkage problem

Driving around the other day and was shifting and the clutch pedal went to the floor and stayed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] I was in neutral, so I coasted off the road and took a look at it. The rod that comes through the firewall had come off of the peg on the end of the clutch pedal linkage. I popped it back on, pushed it a couple times and it popped off again. So I used some wire and a bungee cord to make it stay, and drove it home. (Forgot my duct tape [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

I think (I don't know) that I need the little plastic bushing type thing that goes in the end of the clutch pedal pushrod. Is that right, or do I need something else?

Another thought is that way up under the dash where the clutch pedal and brake pedal are hinged together, there is some movement. If I push one pedal the other one moves. A lot. Is there a bushing or something up there that's easy to replace?

Sorry for the long post, and thank you for your time,

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Old 10-17-2005, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: clutch linkage problem

You are missing a small metal clip that goes through a hole in the peg. That is what holds the bushing and push-rod on the peg.
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Re: clutch linkage problem

I think your 86 i different than my 93, but that just happened to me the other day, only difference is my rod has a plastic loop that sheered in half. It was a fun drive home with no clutch! $0.56 @ Home Depot for a 1/4"x8" eye bolt, a bic pen, braze, and a grinder fixed it. Mine had the plastic bushing you were talking about, and it was worn, lots of built up wire holds my new rig in there fine.
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Re: clutch linkage problem

Actually, it might not be different. The clutch linkage might have come from the '90 that the motor and tranny came from.

I don't think it has a hole for a pin.

So what was the original mechanism for holding it on there?


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Old 10-20-2005, 10:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: clutch linkage problem

Does the pin that the rod fits onto have a shoulder machined out of the edge? On mine, there is a bushing with 4 arms off of it. at the end of the arms are "balls" that fit into that recess and also holds the rod on the pin. I know its hard to describe this, if you saw it you would completley understand me. Mine was worn through from over 200,000miles of clutching, but it wasn't going to hold my hermaphrodite rig I made out of an eye bolt anyway. couple of turns of wire IN that recess on the pin, then connect the wire around the shaft of the push rod. gone about 500 miles, some over rough camp roads and it's still fine. Remeber, you can fix about anything on that truck with some needle nose pliers, diagonals, and a heft roll of "Ford wire"!!! (Great for holding exhuast)
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Bigger Diesels:
-Sulzer 7RLB90, loop flow, fully ported (no valves), contant pressure twin turbo, cross-head 2 stroke, slow speed Diesel. 90cm bore, 210cm stroke, 28,000bhp @ 102rpm
-MaK 6M601, 4 stroke medium speed inline 6, bedplate construction, pulse turbo, 8,046bhp @ 475rpm.
-MaK 332 inline 6, pulse turbo medium speed inline 6, 900kW Gensets
-MAN B&W 6H28/32L inline 6, medium speed 1000kW Genset.
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Re: clutch linkage problem

That sounds like what it used to look like, before it came apart. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Actually, the bungee cord seems to do a pretty good job. It hasn't fallen off yet. I think I am going to look for the part, though.


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1986 F250 4x4 turbo diesel (doesn't run, parts truck, $400)

1996 Dodge caravan, free, 235K, and a bad engine.

And my parents 1993 F150: 5.0L, automatic, 2wd that I drive because I can't drive mine.

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Re: clutch linkage problem

I would look in a junkyard. i checked Napa, Autozone, and the Ford dealership. The Ford guy was the only one that didn't look like a deer caught in headlights at me. He knew exactly what I had when i showed him the broken peice. He said that its a shame, but Ford doesn't make the part anymore, and I would have to buy the Mastercylinder for $120!!! Thats why I made my own. MAYBE your truck is different though. I asked if I could get that bushing, and he said it came with the mastercylinder assembly. Good luck
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85 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel. 215,000+ miles (intermittant odometer), almost everything works (give me time), and $500!

Bigger Diesels:
-Sulzer 7RLB90, loop flow, fully ported (no valves), contant pressure twin turbo, cross-head 2 stroke, slow speed Diesel. 90cm bore, 210cm stroke, 28,000bhp @ 102rpm
-MaK 6M601, 4 stroke medium speed inline 6, bedplate construction, pulse turbo, 8,046bhp @ 475rpm.
-MaK 332 inline 6, pulse turbo medium speed inline 6, 900kW Gensets
-MAN B&W 6H28/32L inline 6, medium speed 1000kW Genset.
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Re: clutch linkage problem

"Luke, I am your father",
"feel the power Luke"
Call the experts, they have the parts
Let the force be with you

Maybe the Ford guy was a professional, and the rest were clerks
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Re: clutch linkage problem

Ok, Starwars was a long time ago, catch up please. You may be in for a shock Bob, but I've heard them all...

Like I said, Ford does not sell that part individually anymore. As for that website, I took the liberty and I didn't see anything below $100, so I'm guessing that little bushing is not in there...

Junkyards are cheap, and it doesn't have to be a diesel for a simple clutch linkage. Good luck on your search.
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Bigger Diesels:
-Sulzer 7RLB90, loop flow, fully ported (no valves), contant pressure twin turbo, cross-head 2 stroke, slow speed Diesel. 90cm bore, 210cm stroke, 28,000bhp @ 102rpm
-MaK 6M601, 4 stroke medium speed inline 6, bedplate construction, pulse turbo, 8,046bhp @ 475rpm.
-MaK 332 inline 6, pulse turbo medium speed inline 6, 900kW Gensets
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Re: clutch linkage problem

Like I said, give them a call, I have done business with people, and they see more clutch linkage problems in a day than most will see in years, tuff to make a judgement with just website info.

In my neighborhood we don't have junkyards

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Re: clutch linkage problem

[ QUOTE ]
Actually, it might not be different. The clutch linkage might have come from the '90 that the motor and tranny came from.

I don't think it has a hole for a pin.

So what was the original mechanism for holding it on there?


Thanks,

Brock

[/ QUOTE ]
Ford Part Number E69Z-7526-A Bushing. Looks like .10 cents worth of plastic but it cost almost $10.00.
Go to New Ford Parts and enter the part number for more info.
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