I am about to tackle a diesel conversion and needed a little info on trannys.
I have a new holland 1068 Bale wagon that is currently powered by a 460 gasser and a 4 speed manual. I want to convert to a 7.3 IDI and a auto tranny. I am very familar with the 7.3 as I have owened several of them and I know the electral is very simple. Now I have located a 92 F250 as a donor truck which has a low mile 7.3 and I am pretty sure a a E40D. Is this computer controlled and how dificult is it going to be to incorperate the computer and wiring into my Bale wagon or is the electrical fairly simple on the E40D? Any help or Ideas would be greatly appreaciated.
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2006 F350 King Ranch
4.30 gears auto
For simplicity, I would stick with the 4 speed, a 5 speed, or try to find a C6 Automatic. Unfortunately, I can't really say how hard it is to wire an E4OD to stand alone, but someone may chime in. With a donor truck, and enough time, anything is possible though.
The shifting on the E4OD is done by the computer. Without the computer you have only 2nd and reverse.
The E4OD computer needs 4 sensors to work. 3 of them are on the motor and trans, the 4th (vehicle speed sensor) may be mounted either in the rear axle or the trans tailshaft.
Me, I would swap the E4OD for a good diesel C6. I'm afraid that the E4OD may give you fits in your ag equipment. Or else you could get a diesel bellhousing and bolt the motor up to your existing trans.
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1985 International rollback, 6.9L 5 speed "Li'l Big Truck"
thanks for the response, does painless wiring make any kits for the E40D?
I have not purchased the donor truck yet but at only $2000 with only 50000 on a rebuilt 7.3 I will be hard pressed to find a donor for that price. What year was a 7.3 availble with a c-6
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2006 F350 King Ranch
4.30 gears auto
Well the E4OD was introduced in 1989, so all years before that would have the C6. A trans from a 6.9 would have the same bolt pattern.
The wiring isn't the big thing with the E4OD, my concern is if you could get the computer to shift the trans where you wanted it to. The C6 is much simpler to adjust shift points, or you could even install a manual shift body and shift manually.
IMO, the E4OD is too complex to try to use in an off-spec application.
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1985 International rollback, 6.9L 5 speed "Li'l Big Truck"
I'd say stick with the granny 4-speed...that way you can engine brake if need be. Does the bailing wagon even travel at a speed in which you'd need OD?
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89 F350 SRW, ZF 5, Boost by banks, 57 trim Kubota comp wheel, 5" straight pipe, manual hubs.
Brian, where abouts are you, I have a c6 that I will never need, could go cheap. pm or whatever.
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since we are on the topic of conversions and trans. I am about to do a 7.3 idi conversion on my 250 i have a c6 trans can i put this 7.3 to my c6 without and mods to the trans without having overdrive will that ruin my top speed just a few question ihad might post a new topic any help would be nice
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1994 F-350 4x4 XLT 5 Speed. DP Tuner 4 position stock, 60Tow, 100Race, 140Smoke. AFE Intake, 3.5 Downpipe into 6inch miter cut stacks. Intercooler from 99, Exhaust Brake, Boost and pyro magtec rear cover, train horns, 181000 and counting
C6 gas, and a C6 diesel are two totally different transmissions. I couldn't bear the thought of not having an OD on the highway (unless I could make fuel for like .50 cents/gallon)
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89 F350 SRW, ZF 5, Boost by banks, 57 trim Kubota comp wheel, 5" straight pipe, manual hubs.
The C6 is a great trans, but would have been even better with OD. The E40D is a trans that would have been better off being a 3 speed. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Go manual or C6 for the bailer. We want pictures when it's done, AND I think you should put Dual Chrome stacks on it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
TYP-4 I'm in yakima WA. I see your in Oregon maybe we could arange something
The bale wagon with the current 460 can do about 55 at about 3000 rpm. it has a 2 speed rear end using low range for loading and high for transport. it currently has a new prosess 4 speed manual which requires a lot of inconvient shifting, all of the new bale wagons have diesel and auto but cost about 120,000 so i want to convert mine.
a bale wagon is a machine that picks up hay bales out of the field and stacks them in a block on the bed of the machine, It holds about 90 bales and then dumps then in a stack.
I think that a c-6 would be alot easier to retrofit, are they a very durable trans? the machine loaded weighs about 25K but has a very low rear end.
I have found a wrecked 1992 donor but not bought it yet, it sounds like I need to find one older or a good 7.3 engine.
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2006 F350 King Ranch
4.30 gears auto
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