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Old 07-10-2009, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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E40D custom application.. need shorter dipstick..??

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Im using an older E40D tranmission to drive a gearbox on a log/wood saw mill.. I'm looking for a dipstick that will fit in the SHORT dipstick tube coming out of the transmission... The original dipstick tube "extension?" is pulled out and now its just the 8 or 10" or so tube coming out of the transmission that I'm looking for a dipstick to fit... The factory dipstick fits good enough but obviously its like 3 feet too long..

1. should I use the original dipstick and cut it to length... but I dont know what the correct fluid level is supposed to be at, as i dont have the original dipstick tube to use to get the correct level...

2. is there a dipstick that is already made to fit this application?

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If you give me a week I can probably give you an answer on length from the top of the lower tube. I have had an e40d in and out 3-4 times trying to figure out why it won't go. I had the oil level perfect when I took it out last weekend, but now the rebuilders have it back trying to figure out why it won't function. I think the level needs to be higher than the intake to the filter. Thats what it looks like anyway. There's plenty of guys on here that can probably give you an answer.

I have a question though: Are you running the electronic controls on the E40D? or it just stand alone without controls? How does it shift etc? I can't get a straight answer from everyone whether the E40D will operate without the PCM.
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The straight answer is that with no electronics the E4OD will operate in 4th gear with an unlocked torque converter if there is no PCM. If you move the shifter to 2 you'll get 2nd gear, in 1 you will get either first or second, I can't remember. Reverse will work.
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Like Mark said - the E4OD will operate without a PCM, but it will enter FMEM state, aka limp-home mode - if trans was still in the truck putting the shifter manually in 1st or 2nd position will give you 2nd gear, and putting the shifter in D will give you 4th with an unlocked converter.
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I'll let you know sometime this evening, since you are in Fairbanks, you are 4 Hrs. behind me "EST". I have the short S shaped tube and dipstick, I'll measure it. Time now is 12:15 AM, your time is 8:15 PM . Was in Soldotna Alaska last summer at this time, damn daylite until 2:00AM

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The straight answer is that with no electronics the E4OD will operate in 4th gear with an unlocked torque converter if there is no PCM. If you move the shifter to 2 you'll get 2nd gear, in 1 you will get either first or second, I can't remember. Reverse will work.
Thanks Mark! That helps me out a bunch.
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Thanks that really helps me sort some gobblygook out that I have been getting from the parts store.
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