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Old 01-21-2012, 11:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb ether baby????

I just recently purchased a 94 7.3 idi, and after 2 new batteries, battery cables and a starter i found out the guy b4 me was starting with ether (everyday) is their any way to undo this???
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What are you trying to undo?

Any damage done, is done. If you mean it won't start without ether, then we can give you some pointers on diagnosing the GP's.


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have you tested your glow plugs?
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no i did not check them, but i just replaced them 2 days ago...
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What brand did you install. So let me ask again: what are you trying to undo?

Do you mean the truck won't start without a shot of ether?

How long does the WTS light come on ?


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it will crank with out it when it is still warm but once it get cold it wont start without it unless i plug it up (block heater) for half hour or so...found out this by going to a friends party(no where to plug up) was their for a few hours an it wouldnt start. shot a quick shot of ether ( per the guy i bought the truck from) and it fired right up... he then told me he was doing that ever since he had the truck, when it was cold out and had no where to plug in... i just knew it wasnt good for a diesel but didnt know what exactly it would do, one of by buddies told me it was like crack to a person, an if done long enough it would become dependent on it...
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used motor craft, and depending on how cold it gets ranges from 20 to 45 seconds
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just dont want to have to worry about if i go some where will the truck start or not...
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used motor craft, and depending on how cold it gets ranges from 20 to 45 seconds
There is something wrong with the GP system. Cold start should see the GP's energized and WTS light on for 12-15 seconds.


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used motocraft? if you dont have an ohm meter you can test the gp without removing them from the engine with a test light.like chuckster57 said sounds like you have a couple bad gp
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yep like trampsdiesel said,I had the same problem (cold starting) I checked my gp's and found one bad, replaced it and problem solved! You definitely need to check your gp's with a ohm meter It's super easy and while your at test the wires to. You can learn a ton around here just search the forum or ask these guys are awsome!
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ok thanks i will check them and get back...
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Do not know if you are awear of this, " BUT " eather and glow plugs do not go well with each other.
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yea if you got the gps working now, i would toss the ether in the garbage. one good puff and bang. ive heard of it blowing glow plugs to bits, blowing the prechambers out, and in one case a guy was diagnosing a no start after a head gasket job and it turned out he used the wrong bolts, so when it went bang it ripped the bolts out, and destroyed the threads in the holes.
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No disrespect to your buddy but a truck becoming dependent on ether is just rediculous!!! Its more like the driver gets dependent on it cause he doesn't know how or is too lazy to fix the real problem.
And yeah if you do ether wrong very bad things happen!!
BTW fixing the real problem with gp's is usually not very difficult.
So like the guys have said check the ohms on your glow plugs even if they are new even one bad can cause problems.
After that check your glow plug controller.
I think chuckster already asked but no answer ... How long is your wait to start light in the cab staying on when you first turn the key on?
This answer will tell us a lot and we can go from there.
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