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Old 12-12-2008, 05:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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freezing fuel lines

Well this site is so great I just thought I'd ask for help once again. My fuel lines keep freezing! I guess obviously I have water in my tank - I hear Husky had bad fuel a couple weeks ago. I ran my tank low so I'm guessing that was part of my problem reaching the water at the bottom of the tank. I put a bunch of de-gel/water evaporator stuff in but thought maybe someone here knows of a miracle solution? Dont tell me to take my tank off

Maybe I just have to keep the tank topped up ( and with de-gel)so the water is diluted for a couple weeks?
Thanks for any input
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If you siphon the tank out with a long hose you probably could just pull out much of the water sitting on the bottom on the tank. Use a clear hose so you can see what is coming out and stop when fuel appears.

I bought a cheap used Dodge car years ago and it was known the vehicle had trouble staying running. It stalled out the evning I purchased it, I siphoned then pulled the tank and removed a removed more than a few gallons of water. New tank and new fuel and it's been going since.
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Thanks. it s nice to know that its just a little problem, and can be solved. I'll keep this thread posted over the next few days. I think I'm going to have to find where the line is frozen and thaw it out with a torch.
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Thanks. it s nice to know that its just a little problem, and can be solved. I'll keep this thread posted over the next few days. I think I'm going to have to find where the line is frozen and thaw it out with a torch.
Might be safer with a heat gun or a hair dryer. open flame may not be such a good idea.
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Yeah I know. that's probably good advice that I thought of myself. However, its so cold here, (going to -35 this weekend) that's probably the only way to do it. It will depend on where I find it frozen though, as it might not be possible to heat it with the torch in some spots. I'll be careful.
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Harbor freight makes a heat gun that will produce 1000* on high. Open flame might melt/burn your wire harness' . DO be careful whatever you decide
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I used to work with a guy who was in the Russian army during WW11. His job in the winter was to get up before dawn and start fires under the fuel tanks of the trucks so the fuel would be warm enough to flow. BTW he was in three army's during the war, Lithuanian, then captured by the germans, and then captured by the Russians. He was a real hoot to work with, nothing would upset him.......
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Well thats old school ingenuity if you ask me! at least I know it will work! I'm going to to attempt more sane methods first, like a tarp and a heater if I cant find a heat gun. thanks for the tip on the heat gun. What do those usually sell for if you know off hand chuckster?
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Go to a truck stop or IH dealer and get some Hayes Diesel treat, double dose the recommended amount. I would quite with the snake oil, water disperer it may not be compatible with a diesel. You can run the tank to empty any time....... the pickup pulls from the very bottom of the tank all the time. Water sinks so it would be the first thing sucked up every time you start and run if there is any. Drain your filter see if any is in there. Check your filter heater see if it is working.....does it have power key on....
Remember the heater only comes on at 32*F. When did you replace the filter last....

Is your fuel pump working to the proper pressure when cranking over on the starter......

Heat guns were around $20 when I got mine years ago.... I use mine for heat shrinking the fancy covers on my wine bottles..........

I notice you run WVO....... I would suggest your problem is a byproduct of that too in part.
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Pete,

From all of those comments about trouble using WVO these past few years, I'm glad I stuck with over priced #2!

What's a liter of diesel costing you up there in the frozen tundra?
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Last time I filled with Premium gas in the Caddy it was $.89, then diesel was $.99 a litre.

These guys are pretty close 99% of the time.......

http://www.mjervin.com/WPPS_Public.htm

I guess I should not be like this, BUT I try not to answer WVO problem posts that are fuel related. There are too many variables with the fuel for problems and I'm not up on it enough.
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Pete,

Looking at that list I see the have diesel listed as Auto Diesel, do semi's pay a different fuel price than cars and small trucks?
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Most semi's here use bulk (Petrocan or Shell) or larger fuel stops like PILOT/FlyingJ....... there they will get fleet prices based on usage or contract. Some times cash gets a better price too.... up to 5 cents a litre even for us wiener drivers. Nice thing is debit cards are considered cash......
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Here in BC (Vancouver area), diesel price is $1.03/liter today. That's $3.91/us gallon. Gas on the other hand is $0.83/liter. Diesel gets better milage, so I guess "The Man" is still getting the same 'X' amount/mile out of us compared to the gassers!
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Snotzalot, I bet that guy from WWII you worked with WAS pretty interesting. I do a little reading in WWII history, and try to talk to some vets about whatever they'll discuss. I know it was common for the German Army serving on the eastern front to put vehicles up on blocks and leave them running all night...in gear. The oil/grease in the diffs would get so thick and congealed that it would bust parts...
I couldn't imagine -60 degree temps, let alone being in the elements at that temp.
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