Hey all,long time reader of this forum - 1st posting.Great stuff.I've been able to keep my 93 well maintained for the last year or so with the help of reading past forum postings. I started my truck the other day. gp's cycled fine.fired up and quit after maybe 8-10 seconds. There she sits crying for some attention. My plans today are to check flow from the lift pump but since i'm getting nothing out the exhaust, could it be the fuel shut off solenoid ? I checked and replaced 3 gp's last month and has a new fuel filter. Traced my fuel lines front to back and they seem fine. Tank is 3/4 full. Starter and batteries are strong. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanx.
How old is the lift pump?
How long do you expect a lift pump to last?
Would you believe (IMO) that a lift pump older than 60,000 miles is subject to failure?
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'93 F-250 IDI, 4x4, K&N, no soup bowl, stock, with 265,XXX miles 5 speed, 3.55, kind of new LUK clutch, runs great, starts great, it is great. The truck is getting old.
not sure how old. I've put about 15000 mi. since I bought it a year ago. Wouldn't be surprized if it was original ! I know the previous owner and he admits doing the bare minimum as far as maintaining. Good advice. Little $$$ for piece of mind. Thanx
Check the electrical connections from the loom to the IP. You might have knocked one loose. Sometimes making a connection, sometimes not. you'll only notice the "SOMETIME NOTS". [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]OkieGringo
Sounds like a fuel problem..... probably air entering the system. When you traced the lines did you move any of them, how about accidently when you did the GPs.
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93 F250 7.3 IDI S/C XLT 4X4 E40D 3.55LS, Captains chairs, Tutone Mocha, Leer 48" Hiboy cap, FR & RR hitches, full DeeZee running boards. Factory ordered/delivered Jan 93 has 160K+, it's basically a stock truck with all the Ford options, just no disc player.
Toys: 26'Jayco FK TT, 18'Sylvan Pro Fish.
thanks for the advice.I checked flow rate of lift pump and its fine. I also checked fuel shut off solenoid and its fine also. Lucky for me it decided to die in my driveway and not up the mountain where I was heading. guess the only good news - i'm learning ! i'll be checking electical connections next.
How old is the lift pump?
How long do you expect a lift pump to last?
Would you believe (IMO) that a lift pump older than 60,000 miles is subject to failure?
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My rig still has the origional lift pump from the day she was born. She has 143,242 miles on it and is still running strong. Though I do expect it to go some day because I do notice a little weariness from the lift pump. I would assume that it would be in my best interest to install a new one soon. But so far so good. Aint that something??? Actually I been just waiting to see how far it will go before failing because of the miles I got on it.
I do have a rebuilt IP, new injectors,new starter and new batteries theyre about 4 yrs old,batteries are 1 yr old and on the second set of GPs this last summer. Starts and runs good thus far.
I just thought Id chime in on the longevity of my lift pump... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
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Ford F-350 Dually Crew Cab 5-Sp 7.3 IDI Centurion Conversion. No mods, rebilt IP and replaced injectors. Used as personal driver and pulling my RV camper.
Planned upgrades are a new and better turbo and larger exhaust pipes than the 21/2s that are already under the rig/ would like a 6 spd tranny but dont know if that is a feasable or smart investment yet.
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Dave,
My experience was similar, the original was replaced as part of a I/P re-build, this was at 130,000.
At 260,000, I have replace the lift pump total of 3 times, twice after the I/P re-build.
Good Luck
BB
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'93 F-250 IDI, 4x4, K&N, no soup bowl, stock, with 265,XXX miles 5 speed, 3.55, kind of new LUK clutch, runs great, starts great, it is great. The truck is getting old.
again, thanks for the tips. i've learned to never rule anything out. Okiegringo was bang on. found a dead fuel shut off solenoid on my ip. hopefully i can find one - no luck at our local parts stores. Maybe International can help.
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again, thanks for the tips. i've learned to never rule anything out. Okiegringo was bang on. found a dead fuel shut off solenoid on my ip. hopefully i can find one - no luck at our local parts stores. Maybe International can help.
[/ QUOTE ] This post may help finding one. You'll also find some advice on removing the top and putting it back on. The top has to come off to get to the FSS.
Best of luck,
Devo
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87 F250 Lariat SC LB 4X4 with an NA 6.9, C6 and 4.10's. Dana 50 IFS up front. 244K mi. 3" exhaust, WVO, Ram air. Thinking about propane or methanol/ water...
First diesel and a lot to learn....
96 F350 CC LB 4X4 AT 231K
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93 F250 7.3 IDI S/C XLT 4X4 E40D 3.55LS, Captains chairs, Tutone Mocha, Leer 48" Hiboy cap, FR & RR hitches, full DeeZee running boards. Factory ordered/delivered Jan 93 has 160K+, it's basically a stock truck with all the Ford options, just no disc player.
Toys: 26'Jayco FK TT, 18'Sylvan Pro Fish.
installed new fss today.good news is that its working and getting fuel to injectors.bad news is i keep frying 20 amp fuse on my gp circuit.maybe broken gp wire grounding out ? any advice ?
You have a wire shorting out somewhere. The actual wires going to the GP's don't have fuses, your fuse is probably for the "ignition" circuit which powers the FSS, advance, idle up and GP controller.
Follow the wire harness and see if the wires are touching any metal anywhere. Also the advance solenoid or idle up solenoid could be shorted out, you can just disconnect them to eliminate those as problems.
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If it was me, I would disconnect the FSS wire, MAKE SURE THE IGNITION IS OFF, and take an ohmmeter and connect black lead to battery ground, and probe the FSS wire. Make sure that's not showing any continuity. If that shows anything other than open circuit, that'll tell you if you have a short in the wiring harness somewhere.
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