I am interested in possibly converting from a mechanical to an electrical lift pump and was wondering if this was something that someone had already done. I am looking for input on this idea and what it would take to do this conversion. Any comments and tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
George
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Napa Balkamp Universal Fuel Pump Kit: Part #610-1050; ~$36 out the door; 4-6 psi at 35GPH. Put it on the frame rail, just after your fuel selector valve, and let it push the fuel to the Fuel Filter.
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The Best Electric Lift/fuel Pump
I have a Facet Dura Lift on mine. Unlike the holley pumps, the Facet is designed for seriously long term continued use, its the factory pump for new Carrier Transcold and Thermoking reefer units and is designed to lift fuel 10feet straight up so you can mount it up high under the hood where it's easy to get to and has a nice filter screen on it that's easy to clean and keep an eye on fuel quality. http://www.facet-purolator.com/mcl/m...lift_sheet.pdf
The Carrier part number is 30-01108-01SV ( Facet # 40223 )
It was a good sign when I went to the Carrier dealer to buy one. The parts guy had to search for quite a while to find it. He didn't know where they were because they'd never had one fail. That's a good sign for pumps that run 24 hours a day .
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The cheapo Facet that autoparts stores keep on the shelf don't last very long. I keep one under the seat just in case my Carter goes belly up. It's been in there for 4 yrs now. OkieGringo
NOTE: the manual lift pump must be removed........ get a Chebby "Big Block" blockoff plate and gasket around $6+ to cover the hole.
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Very easy mod to do, and many here have done it. I used the Holley red pump (I think that is the lower pressure/volume pump). All you need to do is run a power wire down the frame that is powered with your key on (not start), and ground it to the frame where you mount it. You'll thank yourself the next time you change your fuel filter!
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i went with a walbro frb13 from vegpower.com its made for B100 and works well with heated waist oils. i love it!
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Cool thanks for the advice guys. I think I might have to go with the walbro through vegpower. I've been looking at trying out DSE, biodiesel, and WVO fuel setups and that pump seems like the best although that Facet dura lift pump sounds fairly strong as well. Now all I need is some $$ to start all the projects that I want to do.
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A mechanic buddy suggested this to me. He said it eliminates any 'suction' leaks. That is, if the line going to the stock mechanical pump has a small leak, it will suck in air and the mechanical pump will loose prime if sitting, so he said to me. Granted, if you have a duel tank and there are any leaks, it could happen too. Put if you prime the system for a few seconds before trying to start (aka waiting for the GP's to shut off, it will prime your fuel lines....)
My question is, if you have an electric pump, aren't you suppose to have some kind of emergency shut off? Like those inertia switches in the trunk of the cars or in the gas trucks???
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A mechanic buddy suggested this to me. He said it eliminates any 'suction' leaks. That is, if the line going to the stock mechanical pump has a small leak, it will suck in air and the mechanical pump will loose prime if sitting, so he said to me. Granted, if you have a duel tank and there are any leaks, it could happen too. Put if you prime the system for a few seconds before trying to start (aka waiting for the GP's to shut off, it will prime your fuel lines....)
My question is, if you have an electric pump, aren't you suppose to have some kind of emergency shut off? Like those inertia switches in the trunk of the cars or in the gas trucks???
If you look here
you can find an aftermarket inertia switch or a low pressure shutoff switch . Either setup will work.
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Oh yeah I guess I didn't even think about an inertia switch. Guess I'd better look into that...wouldn't want to have an accident and have fuel spewing everywhere. Also as far as the advantage to doing this Mod I figured it would give me a more positive fuel pressure in the line before trying to turn over the engine to start instead of turning engine over couple of times to build the fuel pressure in the line. Also not sure of the validity of this but figured without the mechanical lift pump it would be that much less work that my engine would be putting into to operating and therefore better mileage and more power to the ground... then again it's possible that it would be negligible although in my case I'm also looking at pulling the stock radiator fan off and setting up a thermostatically controlled set of electric fans. Anyways I guess I'll see what happens.
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I'm also looking at pulling the stock radiator fan off and setting up a thermostatically controlled set of electric fans. Anyways I guess I'll see what happens
Don't even go there, many have before and all reverted to the OEM setup...... so don't waste your money.
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Toys: 26'Jayco FK TT, 18'Sylvan Pro Fish.
Oh yeah I guess I didn't even think about an inertia switch. Guess I'd better look into that...wouldn't want to have an accident and have fuel spewing everywhere. Also as far as the advantage to doing this Mod I figured it would give me a more positive fuel pressure in the line before trying to turn over the engine to start instead of turning engine over couple of times to build the fuel pressure in the line. Also not sure of the validity of this but figured without the mechanical lift pump it would be that much less work that my engine would be putting into to operating and therefore better mileage and more power to the ground... then again it's possible that it would be negligible although in my case I'm also looking at pulling the stock radiator fan off and setting up a thermostatically controlled set of electric fans. Anyways I guess I'll see what happens.
nooo negligible loss driving the mech pump, but you are drawing steady current to drive the electric pump--would say the electric draw is more loss----
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Don't even go there, many have before and all reverted to the OEM setup...... so don't waste your money.
why do you say that? i'm looking at doing a 3" body lift and am going to have fan to radiator issues if i don't either extend the radiator mounts lower or swap to an electric fan. i was thinking electric fan since it 'should' improve gas mileage and would make for a cleaner mod to fix my fan radiator alignment problem...
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