anyone have an idea about exhaust stacks and our awesome pennsylvania state inspection rules?? does it matter how far over the cab that they sit?
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7.3 IDI F-350 4x4 1990
-Custom: '92 interior; Banks Y Pipe, Flowmaster muffler and Dual 4.25" Stacks
-Reman'd: Heavy Duty E4OD and Billet Converter; Transfer Case; Water pump; Power Steering pump
-New: Brakes; Engine seals and oil pan; Oil pump; RUST-FREE Cab and Bed
-Pro Comp "Holley Red style" electric fuel pump
-3" Body Lift
-Fresh under coating on frame No more face full of rust under the truck!!
-16x10 Eagle Alloy 186 with 33's
-8ft snow plow
-Soon to come-
Mid 80's front clip
Matching fender flares
Black paint job with chrome trim (fender flares, grill, bed runners, wheels, exhaust stacks, windshield trim, bumper)
2.5" leveling kit
4.6l Mustang GT 1997
-Custom side exhaust (no mufflers, Ford Racing Exhaust tips
-Aftermarket stereo (Alpine headunit; JL Component Speakers; JL 300x2 Amp; JL 10" W7 Sub; JL 500x1 Amp)
it matters on your inspection guy. the do need to be over cab a little bit to prevent fumes from entering. they SHOULD have heatsheails on them. that second part matters on the inspector. some dont know that and let it pass. other then them, get em up.
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83 F250 6.9 rebuilt at 280,000. NP435, NP205, 4x4 conversion with hp60 front, 10.25 rear. 35inch Cepek Mud Countrys - RESTING IN PEICES (PARTED OUT)
99 Expedition 5.4 gasser
Man, I pitty you guys who live in draconian peoples republics that requiresuch BS.
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'93 Ford F250 w/ 7.3 IDI diesel (no turbo) E4od auto. SC/LB 2WD, but hey, got 3 attenas. retired government vehicle.
'26 tall T coupe on '67 scout frame w/400 Ford/C6
'00 Dodge Ram 1500 SC/SB w/318/5spd 4X4 3" SkyJacker lift 33-12.50X15 Perreli Scorpions
'01 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad cab/SB w/360/auto 4X4 NO LIFT!!! Running 33-12.50X15 Hi-Tech-Retreads with Green Diamonds (alternative to studs!) on saw blade chrome wheels.
'62 Caddy 2dr, "slammed" with air bag suspension. I can literaly set it on the ground!!!!
'48 CJ2A w/'61 over head valve engine
'77 Chevy Caprice, rare 2 door! Built 350 4 bolt mains. Weyand high ram intake, Headman Headers, dual glass pack "cop callers", TH350 with high stall converter and B&M "street/strip" kit (churps the tires hitting 3rd @ 90MPH!!!!)
'84 AC 5040 w/ loader
'71 Dodge D200 w/'69 vette 327 & powerglide
'97 Morgan built 20' tilt car hauler
'01 Morgan built 16'cattle trailer
Ford 9N
Ford 8N
JD model 40C crawler
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7.3 IDI F-350 4x4 1990
-Custom: '92 interior; Banks Y Pipe, Flowmaster muffler and Dual 4.25" Stacks
-Reman'd: Heavy Duty E4OD and Billet Converter; Transfer Case; Water pump; Power Steering pump
-New: Brakes; Engine seals and oil pan; Oil pump; RUST-FREE Cab and Bed
-Pro Comp "Holley Red style" electric fuel pump
-3" Body Lift
-Fresh under coating on frame No more face full of rust under the truck!!
-16x10 Eagle Alloy 186 with 33's
-8ft snow plow
-Soon to come-
Mid 80's front clip
Matching fender flares
Black paint job with chrome trim (fender flares, grill, bed runners, wheels, exhaust stacks, windshield trim, bumper)
2.5" leveling kit
4.6l Mustang GT 1997
-Custom side exhaust (no mufflers, Ford Racing Exhaust tips
-Aftermarket stereo (Alpine headunit; JL Component Speakers; JL 300x2 Amp; JL 10" W7 Sub; JL 500x1 Amp)
Yeah, PA sucks. I don't know about the height of the stacks but I do know you are "supposed to" have heat shields. I also thought you had to have a muffler in PA but some people have had no problems with no muffler during inspection. I'm leaving my muffler out for now and we'll see what happens when inspection time comes around.
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1989 F-350 crew cab dually 4x4 7.3 IDI, Banks Sidewinder Wastegated Turbo. Rebuilt E4OD with Transcommand. push button start, 5" straight piped dual bullhorn stacks. New body work and paint. Custom diamond plate interior. Custom built front and rear HEAVY DUTY bumpers, Many Many Mods on the way. Just need more money and time. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] fuzzy dice hangin from the mirrior
1990 F-350 Crew Cab SRW 7.3 IDI with ATS turbo. Offroad wheels and tires. E4OD. custom exhaust and turned up pump. New bed and paint.
Mine isn't turbo charged = Extremely loud without a muffler. I'm running a 50 series HD flowmaster muffler, so it will still sound great!
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7.3 IDI F-350 4x4 1990
-Custom: '92 interior; Banks Y Pipe, Flowmaster muffler and Dual 4.25" Stacks
-Reman'd: Heavy Duty E4OD and Billet Converter; Transfer Case; Water pump; Power Steering pump
-New: Brakes; Engine seals and oil pan; Oil pump; RUST-FREE Cab and Bed
-Pro Comp "Holley Red style" electric fuel pump
-3" Body Lift
-Fresh under coating on frame No more face full of rust under the truck!!
-16x10 Eagle Alloy 186 with 33's
-8ft snow plow
-Soon to come-
Mid 80's front clip
Matching fender flares
Black paint job with chrome trim (fender flares, grill, bed runners, wheels, exhaust stacks, windshield trim, bumper)
2.5" leveling kit
4.6l Mustang GT 1997
-Custom side exhaust (no mufflers, Ford Racing Exhaust tips
-Aftermarket stereo (Alpine headunit; JL Component Speakers; JL 300x2 Amp; JL 10" W7 Sub; JL 500x1 Amp)
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Yeah, PA sucks. I don't know about the height of the stacks but I do know you are "supposed to" have heat shields. I also thought you had to have a muffler in PA but some people have had no problems with no muffler during inspection. I'm leaving my muffler out for now and we'll see what happens when inspection time comes around.
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that is another iffy thing. the book consideres a turbo a noise surpressing device. which means no muffler needed.
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83 F250 6.9 rebuilt at 280,000. NP435, NP205, 4x4 conversion with hp60 front, 10.25 rear. 35inch Cepek Mud Countrys - RESTING IN PEICES (PARTED OUT)
99 Expedition 5.4 gasser
I donno, I live in PA, I take all my vehicles to where I buy my tires,I drive in I hand them $22.00 and say everything works and they put a sticker on the windshield.
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Paul - Pocono Mtns. USA '90 E350 7.3L Ex-Ambulance High Top 400K Miles, No Turbo, Stock Stock stock, 10 oz. Bars Stop Leak and No ELC!
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Yeah, PA sucks. I don't know about the height of the stacks but I do know you are "supposed to" have heat shields. I also thought you had to have a muffler in PA but some people have had no problems with no muffler during inspection. I'm leaving my muffler out for now and we'll see what happens when inspection time comes around.
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that is another iffy thing. the book consideres a turbo a noise surpressing device. which means no muffler needed.
[/ QUOTE ]It used to be that a Turbocharger was a sufficent "Muffling"device.They have amended that.There must be at a minimum a Resonator in the system now.Heatsheilds are mandatory. I wont pass a Big tk with strait stacks if they are Not shielded.But the Muffler part doesnt bother me that much.If they come back on me which is highly unlikely it was on when I inspected it would be my reply [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].It will be Up to the Person doing the Insp on weather it flies or Not.
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I donno, I live in PA, I take all my vehicles to where I buy my tires,I drive in I hand them $22.00 and say everything works and they put a sticker on the windshield.
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What place do you go to?? I wanna go there!
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7.3 IDI F-350 4x4 1990
-Custom: '92 interior; Banks Y Pipe, Flowmaster muffler and Dual 4.25" Stacks
-Reman'd: Heavy Duty E4OD and Billet Converter; Transfer Case; Water pump; Power Steering pump
-New: Brakes; Engine seals and oil pan; Oil pump; RUST-FREE Cab and Bed
-Pro Comp "Holley Red style" electric fuel pump
-3" Body Lift
-Fresh under coating on frame No more face full of rust under the truck!!
-16x10 Eagle Alloy 186 with 33's
-8ft snow plow
-Soon to come-
Mid 80's front clip
Matching fender flares
Black paint job with chrome trim (fender flares, grill, bed runners, wheels, exhaust stacks, windshield trim, bumper)
2.5" leveling kit
4.6l Mustang GT 1997
-Custom side exhaust (no mufflers, Ford Racing Exhaust tips
-Aftermarket stereo (Alpine headunit; JL Component Speakers; JL 300x2 Amp; JL 10" W7 Sub; JL 500x1 Amp)
What type of head sheilds are we talking about? Does it just have to cover the area that is within the bed walls or above also?
Cowkiller... that is just about one of the coolest things I've seen in anybody's signature. Almost makes me wish a had a 6.9 instead of a 7.3 jus so i could say it...
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7.3 IDI F-350 4x4 1990
-Custom: '92 interior; Banks Y Pipe, Flowmaster muffler and Dual 4.25" Stacks
-Reman'd: Heavy Duty E4OD and Billet Converter; Transfer Case; Water pump; Power Steering pump
-New: Brakes; Engine seals and oil pan; Oil pump; RUST-FREE Cab and Bed
-Pro Comp "Holley Red style" electric fuel pump
-3" Body Lift
-Fresh under coating on frame No more face full of rust under the truck!!
-16x10 Eagle Alloy 186 with 33's
-8ft snow plow
-Soon to come-
Mid 80's front clip
Matching fender flares
Black paint job with chrome trim (fender flares, grill, bed runners, wheels, exhaust stacks, windshield trim, bumper)
2.5" leveling kit
4.6l Mustang GT 1997
-Custom side exhaust (no mufflers, Ford Racing Exhaust tips
-Aftermarket stereo (Alpine headunit; JL Component Speakers; JL 300x2 Amp; JL 10" W7 Sub; JL 500x1 Amp)
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What type of head sheilds are we talking about? Does it just have to cover the area that is within the bed walls or above also?
Cowkiller... that is just about one of the coolest things I've seen in anybody's signature. Almost makes me wish a had a 6.9 instead of a 7.3 jus so i could say it...
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heatsheilds need to be in a location where passenger can be burnt. u will want to put one in the bed to prevent burning of objects in bed. they will get hot! as for above the bed, they dont need to cover entire thing. go from 3-4 inches above the bedrails to about 3-4 inched below cab line. they only need to be in that area. only 1/2 around worked fine for me when i had my single stack.
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83 F250 6.9 rebuilt at 280,000. NP435, NP205, 4x4 conversion with hp60 front, 10.25 rear. 35inch Cepek Mud Countrys - RESTING IN PEICES (PARTED OUT)
99 Expedition 5.4 gasser
Kinda funny since you're talking about state inspections here...I had a dream (nightmare?) last night where I got a ticket for running without a muffler in Illinois :\
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1986 F250 2WD Super Cab XLT Lariat w/ 1996 front clip. Dually bed & van rearend (2" wider, allows spring clearance). 6.9 w/ approx 120,000mi. Banks non-wastegated turbo system, Beru ZD1A glowplugs, Delphi BB injectors, Kenworth pyrometer, vac/boost gauge, electric water temp/oil psi/voltmeter mounted in dash. 3" Mandrel-bent open exhaust. C6 trans, 3.54 gears. Okiegringo idler pulley. R134a A/C conversion. WMO/diesel blend in one tank.
I live in pa and had no problems w/ my stacks. No muffler and my stacks go up the outside w/ no heatsheilds. like everyone says it depends on where you go to get it inspected. Just like i had a problem inspecting my jeep wrangler b/c i didnt have a battery hold down bracket.
Stereo: Kenwood 7" motorized touch screen filp out monitor, 10 disc dvd changer,sirius sat. radio,Rockford Fosgate Q component sets, 2 12" Rockford Hx2 subs, 2 Memphis amps 2000 watts total, optima deep cell batery in the bed
Outside: chrome every where, chrome running boards, bed guards, rocker pannel covers, bolt covers, wheels, 8" drop bumper in the back, custom paint, lund spoiler, sunvisor, and chrome vent guards, chrome mud flap weights, 80 gallon tank in the bed, 5th wheel hitch
Peformance mods:
custom 4" exhaust (straight pipe from the turbo back) w/ chrome stacks up the sides
(and rain caps), auto meter gauges, boost, tranny temp, and pyrometer, K&N filter in the stock air box, jasper monster box transmission, w/ braided steel lines and larger cooler.