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Old 12-13-2008, 05:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it possible to buy an injection pump rebuild kit?

I know everyone recommends against doing it yourself, but I have done successfully many such tasks when equipped with good directions and/or info. I have over 400k miles and feel that my engine will run away if I don't do something, so if I rebuilt a pump and it didn't work out, the result is the same. I can't afford a rebuilt pump or a rebuilt engine, but a friend donated a 460 gas engine for if neither works out. The only concern about the 460 is, does the ZF 5-speed bolt up. I need this truck and it seems to like me. -Jeffy.
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I have done successfully many such tasks when equipped with good directions and/or info.
Hate to tell you but even with great directions and all the info in the world you won't have the equipment needed to do this job. Tolerances in this pump I am told are way to close for the DIY'er. Also you need special fixtures to flow test and adjust these things. If your truck is running good now, just set a little bit of $ aside each payday and save up for the rebuilt pump.
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It's for a '92 F-250 idi 7.3. If you have an extra I could use it if your price is merciful! -Jeffy.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Jeffy, you need a special machine to calibrate the IP, way to many places you can screw up at without said machine. Also, the big-block trans will not bolt up to the diesel, and the other way around.
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You can get a Bosch rebuilt DB2 IP from Pensacola for $295.00 shipped. Mine has worked flawlessly thus far.
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You can get a Bosch rebuilt DB2 IP from Pensacola for $295.00 shipped. Mine has worked flawlessly thus far.
Is this truck's pump a Bosch? I thought it was a Stanadyne.
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Is this truck's pump a Bosch? I thought it was a Stanadyne.

Stanadyne pump, rebuilt by a Bosch shop, according to Pensacola Diesel.
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Chuckster's right. I have a Stanadyne pump overhaul and repair manual and without dragging it out, I can recall off the top of my head at least 12 adjustments and calibrations that have to be made on a test stand.
Your best bet for a quality job and fair price is phone a local large truck shop and ask them who they locally send their pumps out to for an overhaul. We dealt with a local pump and turbo shop for about 15 years and I can't recall a comeback from the guy.
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Mankypro, can you give me contact info to this Bosch overhauling shop? $300 is the best price I've ever heard on the injection pump. Like I have indicated, my engine has over 400k miles on it, so there's no point in putting an expensive pump on an engine that's going to spit a rod at any time. I've got that 460 gasser... And I'm not afraid to use it! Don't make me do it! It's a 460 and it runs on gas, so watch out! Anyway, I appreciate the info you folks are giving me- facts remain whether I like them or not. -Jeffy.
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I was able to obtain the actual International 7.3l shop manual. In the last section of the book, it gives complete disassembly, inspection, and assembly instructions of the Stanadyne DB2. I decided to rebuild my original pump after my remanufactured injection pump gave me hard hot start problems. My original problem was a miss at over 1800 RPM. Turns out it was the advance piston that was scored up and worn into the aluminium housing after disassembly and inspection. So I tore my pump right down, cleaning each part one by one and putting the parts into a clean tub of fuel additive until ready to be put back together. I took my questionable parts to the local injection shop and they were able to fix me up. I bought a new oversize advance piston $30, had them hone my housing to accept the new piston ($10 labor) bought a complete seal kit $54, installed a new delivery valve $5, a new metering valve $25, a new cam for the external advance mechanism $35, I was going to buy a new governor flyweight thrust washer, but they told me just to flip it around to give a new surface for the flyweights to run on. Oh and for the $10 they charged me to hone the housing, they also installed my seals on the pump drive shaft because you need a special tool to do so. Once I had everything back together i took the pump assembly to the injection shop for calibration. They charged me .5 hr labour ($40) to calibrate. When i went to pick it up they asked if i wanted a job. The pump has been going strong for 10,000 kms now ! Best of all, it's the original pump to the truck! One heck of a learning experience.
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Hey good for you! That's what I'd call a cheap but GOOD pump overhaul. Most local inj shops I've been around were nice guys and easy to work with. Sounds like we have the same series manual.
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Yeah the manual I have is Part# CTS-4245G volume 2 Navistar truck service. But I want to make people aware that all injection shops might not give you the time of day to give advice/tips/hints....also I did this over a couple weeks as i was running the reman'd pump in my truck. I did take the pump back and they gave me another one on warranty...no refund...LOL its still in the box on the shelf in the garage, never been opened.
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The pump rebuild shop is on Ebay under Pensacola Fuel Injection Inc. 805-470-9408 Phillip Waters is who you will talk with. No core needed either and the shipping is free too. So for about @950.00 or less because they may have another special you can get a great pump. I have one now and its fine. Nothing more I can say.
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So for about @950.00 or less because they may have another special you can get a great pump. I have one now and its fine. Nothing more I can say.
Gary, uhm, what? 950.00? Pensacola Diesel pumps were like $290 online last time I checked...
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pump info

this link explains DB2 pumps: Oliver Diesel - Engines & Outdoors here is an old 6.9 injection pump link: info for repairing injection pumps
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