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Old 08-03-2008, 11:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Starter won't come off

Trying to replace the starter in my 7.3L, and I can't get it off. I have removed the 3 bolts, but it will not budge from the block. I tried putting my jack and a block of wood under it to try and budge it, but no luck. What else can I try? Did I forget to do something?
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats strange, just replaced mine and fell right off. 3# bolts should be it, I guess the 2.5 lb hammer is next!
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Was the third one the blind one up on top. I missed that one my first time!!!
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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this is a 15 min special. make sure they are the 3 bolts that are either 14 or 17 mm, after you get those off, pry it with a small screw driver. sometimes cooked on grease or oil makes it a little stickey, especially if its factory. you do have a "hidden" bolt ontop of the starter, you need an extension that runst the legnth of the starter ad a socket.
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or just get it running if you can (push start) and have autozone pull it for you ive done that so many times let them bother to get it off then when you get back after they test it you just put in your new one to replace the one they deemed bad

plus its free to get it checked there
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Only problem with getting Autozone to do the job is you get an Autozone starter! This ain't a hard job folks!
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and have autozone pull it for you ive done that so many times let them bother to get it off ....
Let me get this straight, we're supposed to believe the Autozone parts man will come out from behind the counter, grab some wrenches, go out, lay on his back in the parking lot under your pickup and pull your starter off? That's right up there with the top ten funniest things I've ever read on an internet forum.
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are the 3 bolts that are either 14 or 17 mm, after you get those off,
No they're not metric, they're standard American, they're either 5/16" bolts (translation: 1/2 socket), or 3/8" bolts(translation 9/16 socket) I forget which.

The top bolt's easiest with a wobble socket and extension like posted.
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This ain't a hard job folks!
Right, a while back a guy was pulling a bellhousing bolt out from the back side thinking it was the top starter bolt, maybe the original poster here is doing the same. It's about impossible for a starter to be stuck in the housing if all the bolts are out.
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I won't even let Autozone change my wiper blades, no matter how much it's raining or snowing! Whooooops, I said snowing, my bad!
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Let me get this straight, we're supposed to believe the Autozone parts man will come out from behind the counter, grab some wrenches, go out, lay on his back in the parking lot under your pickup and pull your starter off? That's right up there with the top ten funniest things I've ever read on an internet forum.
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The bolts are 1/2" 6pt. He MUST have left the top one in b'cuz originally, he said he tried to use a block of wood and a jack and it still wouldn't move.

If it is actually jammed in there that bad, and I can't imagine how it could be, then put the bolts back in a couple threads and get out the BFH and give a couple whacks.

Hopefully he's not confusing the oil cooler with the starter.
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a little trick when you put her back in, get a 10" 1/2 " bolt, put a nut on it all the way to bottom out, then you can reach up there and put that REAL PAIN top bolt back in, it will do the same job as the short one, I have had one in there for afew years now, I check it once in awile when I change my oil, have never found it lose.
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The three bolts that hold in the starter are all the same size and length. They all come out from the starter side of the motor. Nothing comes out the bellhousing side. Look at your new starter if you have one. You will "see" the top hidden bolt. The best tools I have found are a 3/8 drive extension and socket set. The extension must be about 1 inch longer than the starter or you can use about 3 feet of extension and be in front of the motor mount and reach the top bolt that way. Going back together I use electrical tape on the bolt to the socket... The socket to the extension so "things don't fall off when pulling back on the finished bolt tightening. Just enough tape is used on the bolt to socket so it stays in place but you can pull it off when done. Others have other ideas but this works for me. Install a gear reduction type starter because they turn the motor over so much faster and they are smaller and easier to install. Don't gorget to remove the positive cables from each battery. Way too many amps down there at the starter. I think the cable from the battery is a 11/16 wrench size nut and the trigger wire is 1/4 or 5/16. The bolts are 1/2 inch hex holding the starter in place.
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yes autozone will they will remove and test starter and battery along with trouble shoot for free

and you dont have to buy from them just let them test

unless they cannot in your state some places they are nto allowed

i like the new bolt idea

and did you try a prybar?
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Turbo diesel of atlanta has the best starters for the priice, 160 no core. vs 450 at ford?
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