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Old 05-13-2005, 11:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There was some talk a while back about on board air.How fast will a York fill up say a 30 gallon tank?Also,how much trouble would it be to install one where the AC compressor once sat?Think I am gonna omit the AC on the Enterprise when it hits the road again......I can live with 4-70 AC.Did it for 5 years with White Lightning.....except it was 1 1/2-70 since the drivers side window died and only had the vent on that side.
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I contacted them about 3 weeks ago and they said they don't make a system for our engines. I told the guy that I still have the A/C compressor brackets on the truck, but I don't think I got thru his THICK HEAD. If you can 'GET THRU' let me know. Baja
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I contacted them about 3 weeks ago and they said they don't make a system for our engines. I told the guy that I still have the A/C compressor brackets on the truck, but I don't think I got thru his THICK HEAD. If you can 'GET THRU' let me know. Baja
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Brad Kilby at Onboardair.com does know something about York installations for our trucks, so you must not have talked to him. He doesn't sell a kit though.

Therrold Engineering in El Centro CA did market a kit for 1980's Ford diesels that used a York for an air compressor while keeping the stock A/C. Brad bought all of the tooling and jigs from Therrold when the owner retired. Problem was that none of the jigs or brackets were labeled, and most have long since been scrapped. I spent an afternoon a few years ago in Brad's warehouse searching the old Therrold stuff for anything that might work, with no luck.

However, if you are going to scrap the stock A/C compressor and use a York for air, you can probably make the stock A/C mounts work. Use a York as a template for modifying the brackets if necessary. You may need to change pulleys to fit your belt set-up. Brad can help you with pulleys as he has a very good machine shop that makes them for him. He can also sell you a new compressor if you can't find a suitable one at your local junkyard.
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Re: york compressor install

I almost forgot - there is an alternative to an engine-driven compressor.

If all you are doing is running an air horn and need air for tires, etc., and don't plan to run air tools on a regular basis, you can do what I am doing:

I have a Thomas 1/3 HP 12v compressor (no puny Quik-Air or Vi-Air for me)that I pulled from my jeep when I converted the jeep's stock Sanden A/C compressor to use for air. I recently ordered a dual battery tray from Wrangler NW Power Products that replaces the passenger side battery tray for 1980's F-series gasser trucks. (The same tray is available from Mechman.com.) The batterys stay in their original positions and use the stock battery cables, and the Thomas compressor mounts on the extra space on the new dual battery tray. The compressor is powered through a constant duty solenoid with a pressure switch that turns it on when pressure drops below 70 psi and off at 105, with a master switch under the dash. I have a 2 1/2 gal. tank that I got from Onboardair.com that I will mount on the passenger frame rail under the cab.

This system has served me well in the jeep, so I have every expectation that it will work just as well in the truck.
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Bob, where can I pick up a Thomas 1/3 HP 12v compressor, and about how much do they cost. I already ordered a AirLift SmartAir automatic leveling system for the AirLift Air Bags, but I'd still be interested in something with a little more power. Living down here in Mexico and the severe hassle to cross the border after a 2 hour drive, makes it real friggin hard to deal with someone like the on-board air guy. My Broadband phone only works when the DSL works and that isn't real regular. We are beyond the limits of reliable service, but it's still better than dial-up. And calling the US on the Mexican phone system costs almost $1.00/minute [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]. Towcat is sending me a electric vacuum pump along with another drivers side exhaust manifold, so I'm going to be running out of room under the hood real soon. I've been thinking of making some kind of storage compartment in the dually wells. Lots of wasted space there. Could use at least 6" of the top area and stainless piano hinge? Baja
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Bob, where can I pick up a Thomas 1/3 HP 12v compressor, and about how much do they cost.

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Currie uses the Thomas compressor for their onboard air system. I think they are also available from Graingers and McMaster Carr. List price isn't cheap though.

I was lucky. I bought mine from Brad Kilby at onboardair.com when he was first getting into the business. His primary business is surplus aircraft parts and he had happened upon an entire pallet of Thomas compressors which he sold at very good prices.

Thomas also manufactures a 1/4 HP , 100% duty cycle compressor which is the same size as the 1/3 HP version and works just as well for on board air.

I would think the best price would be somewhere on the Internet, or used. You might try the message boards for Jeepaholics Anonymous to see if anyone there has one they would part with. A lot of posters there are from San Diego and I know Brad sold quite a few of the Thomas compressors to jeepers in that area.
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