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Old 11-27-2005, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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head gaskets and turbo?

Where should I get my head gaskets to get the most updated version (was told there has been many)at ford or the local navistar dealer? And also I was wondering if I install a turbo on my 6.9 with out adding fuel is there any thing that I should worry about? It is a Hypermax kit off of a s-series international truck, the turbo is a garret don't know what size it is?
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

If you don't turn up the fuel when you install the Hypermax turbo you will not get much improvement in performance. Your EGT will be quite cold. I turned mine up about 135° and can't get over 1100°. I get 12psi boost and the power is greatly improved. As a side benifit the intake noise from the engine is now gone. I believe 1983-4 had the weak head gasket. The newer ones are fine. I was told by Hypermax to check the head bolts for proper torque and if they were OK that was all I needed to do. I checked a few that were accessable and they were fine so that was all I did.Jim
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

Head gaskets...all of them will be at least somewhat updated. Many here like Fel-Pro. You could stay with IH gaskets, they would also be great. If you are going to turbo you might look into head studs or new bolts. Used ones would be OK for N/A. You might also check with Hypermax about what if any modifications are needed to make an "S Series" kit fit on a Ford truck. You can add teh turbo without adding fuel, it won't hurt a thing and will still give you a bit more power....but you will be thoroughly unimpressed. You really need to turn teh fuel up a flat or two to get the boost up. It's still going to be low except when you are flying on the freeway or pulling a heavy load. Look for 1-2PSI around town and 7-10 on the highway. This si as much as you really want on a stock 6.9/7.3 anyway, though with fresh gaskets adn new bolts or studs you could go a bit higher, but you'll ahve a hrad time making your Hypermax do that for you.
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

Make sure to replace your head bolts when you do the head gaskets.
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

I would recommend Fel-Pro head gaskets. If you do the headgaskets/turbo, you need to at least use new head bolts, or go all out and get studs from DPS .

There really is no reason to add a turbo without adding fuel. The way a turbo makes power is by stuffing more air into the cylinder with more fuel. Sure, there may be minimal gain in power by turboing without more fuel, but I don't think you'd notice it while driving.

I don't know what turbo was used on S-series IH trucks or if they are compatable with the Ford IDI. The Hypermax, Banks, and ATS(factory turbo IDI is the same) are designed for these IDI's and would be the best choice. You can find used systems on ebay and in the "for sale" section of this site from time to time.

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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

Thanks guys for the help do you think there will be a reliability issue when I get it together with 230,000 miles I really use it as my everyday driver and farm truck all my heavy pulling is done with my 99.5 psd. the turbo a friend of mine just had, and had no use for so I thought might as well just through it on right!!!
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

The exhaust plumming and the turbo mount on the S series truck is completely different. Hope your good at fabricating.

As mentioned before, there is no point in turbo charging if you don't turn up the fuel.
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

Thats not totally true, you can throw a turbo on it without turning up the pump. You wont get as big of performance gains but you should get mpg gains.
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As mentioned before, there is no point in turbo charging if you don't turn up the fuel.

[/ QUOTE ]There is if you live at 6500' elevation and regularly drive to 9500'. It turned all that black smoke into POWER.
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Good point Dave, forgot about you thin air guys.
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Re: head gaskets and turbo?

I assume you've read my headgasket/turbo article (link below), since your aware of the different gasket types. I'm sure you will still want to turn up the fuel after you taste the performance improvement, so don't fool yourself into thinking you have that kind of restraint. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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