Where should I get my head gaskets to get the most updated version (was told there has been many)at ford or the local navistar dealer? And also I was wondering if I install a turbo on my 6.9 with out adding fuel is there any thing that I should worry about? It is a Hypermax kit off of a s-series international truck, the turbo is a garret don't know what size it is?
Thanks
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99.5 F-250 Crewcab Shortbox 6 Speed
7.3L powerstroke Diesel 4X4
87 f-250 reg cab 6.9L 4X4 5 Speed
Ford makes it international shakes it!
If you don't turn up the fuel when you install the Hypermax turbo you will not get much improvement in performance. Your EGT will be quite cold. I turned mine up about 135° and can't get over 1100°. I get 12psi boost and the power is greatly improved. As a side benifit the intake noise from the engine is now gone. I believe 1983-4 had the weak head gasket. The newer ones are fine. I was told by Hypermax to check the head bolts for proper torque and if they were OK that was all I needed to do. I checked a few that were accessable and they were fine so that was all I did.Jim
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1986 E350 6.9 based 27' MH. Weights 15,000# ready to travel. Hypermax conventional turbo. All exhaust to turbo pipes wrapped with 2" Thermotec pipe insulation. Turbo hot side wrapped with ¾" thick 2000° pipe wrap blanket material. Cold side wrapped with Foam sound deadening material. Turbo is silent! Hypermax hood inlet cool air intake system. Down pipe oulet to 3" then split to 3" dual exhaust exit behind rear tires. 3" in-out X 36"long round Walker mufflers. Ziggster40 design based propane injection. Gear Vendors Overdrive. 235/85X16 tires. Isspro EV pyrometer. Isspro 0-15 psi manifold pressure gauge. TCI C-6 deep finned aluminum trans pan. EV trans temp gauge. 10 3/4" brake booster from '93 E-350. Towing a '87 Suzuki Samurai Tintop
Head gaskets...all of them will be at least somewhat updated. Many here like Fel-Pro. You could stay with IH gaskets, they would also be great. If you are going to turbo you might look into head studs or new bolts. Used ones would be OK for N/A. You might also check with Hypermax about what if any modifications are needed to make an "S Series" kit fit on a Ford truck. You can add teh turbo without adding fuel, it won't hurt a thing and will still give you a bit more power....but you will be thoroughly unimpressed. You really need to turn teh fuel up a flat or two to get the boost up. It's still going to be low except when you are flying on the freeway or pulling a heavy load. Look for 1-2PSI around town and 7-10 on the highway. This si as much as you really want on a stock 6.9/7.3 anyway, though with fresh gaskets adn new bolts or studs you could go a bit higher, but you'll ahve a hrad time making your Hypermax do that for you.
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J.D.'s Fords: 1986 F-250 6.9 diesel Solid State Glow Plug System 3.55 gears C-6 2WD 178,960 miles.... it still runs pretty good!
Wishlist H-max turbo, T19 tranny,
1989 Ford Ranger ga$$er, non runner, soon to be donated or scrapped!
I would recommend Fel-Pro head gaskets. If you do the headgaskets/turbo, you need to at least use new head bolts, or go all out and get studs from DPS .
There really is no reason to add a turbo without adding fuel. The way a turbo makes power is by stuffing more air into the cylinder with more fuel. Sure, there may be minimal gain in power by turboing without more fuel, but I don't think you'd notice it while driving.
I don't know what turbo was used on S-series IH trucks or if they are compatable with the Ford IDI. The Hypermax, Banks, and ATS(factory turbo IDI is the same) are designed for these IDI's and would be the best choice. You can find used systems on ebay and in the "for sale" section of this site from time to time.
Heath
__________________ 1986 F250HD 4x4 7.3L IDI '95 PSD front clip, '97 bed, T19, D60/10.25 with 3.55's. Rebuilt from the frame up. Banks Turbo, DPS IP & Stage 1's, Isspro TTM, Banks Exhaust, Boost gauge, Pyrometer, Precharged Coolant Filter, Holley Red Pump. 16.5 x 37 x 12.5 Goodyear Wrangler's, Air Horns. 6in lift, Fresh Paint, On-board Air. Revamped Interior. Rhino Liner.
Thanks guys for the help do you think there will be a reliability issue when I get it together with 230,000 miles I really use it as my everyday driver and farm truck all my heavy pulling is done with my 99.5 psd. the turbo a friend of mine just had, and had no use for so I thought might as well just through it on right!!!
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99.5 F-250 Crewcab Shortbox 6 Speed
7.3L powerstroke Diesel 4X4
87 f-250 reg cab 6.9L 4X4 5 Speed
Ford makes it international shakes it!
The exhaust plumming and the turbo mount on the S series truck is completely different. Hope your good at fabricating.
As mentioned before, there is no point in turbo charging if you don't turn up the fuel.
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95" Extd Cab F250HD 4x4 DRW, /86"6.9 T19 GV o/d 3.73 axles, Hypermax Pulse turbo, intercooled / Modified Hypermax ram air induction, PowerShot 2000 LPG system "first design". Ride rites @ all 4 corners, Dana 50 mono Beam up front, Ford 10.5" in rear with 4 wheel disk brakes. Other Truck, 1983 IHC "S" with 14ton NoMar wrecker body, 30,000 GVW, 229"wb with a 340hp Detroit 6V92TA, Eaton 13spd RTO9513, 3.70 ring & pinion and LPG kit. Alcoa 22.5x8.25 with Michelin XVE 255x70x22.5
Thats not totally true, you can throw a turbo on it without turning up the pump. You wont get as big of performance gains but you should get mpg gains.
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95" Extd Cab F250HD 4x4 DRW, /86"6.9 T19 GV o/d 3.73 axles, Hypermax Pulse turbo, intercooled / Modified Hypermax ram air induction, PowerShot 2000 LPG system "first design". Ride rites @ all 4 corners, Dana 50 mono Beam up front, Ford 10.5" in rear with 4 wheel disk brakes. Other Truck, 1983 IHC "S" with 14ton NoMar wrecker body, 30,000 GVW, 229"wb with a 340hp Detroit 6V92TA, Eaton 13spd RTO9513, 3.70 ring & pinion and LPG kit. Alcoa 22.5x8.25 with Michelin XVE 255x70x22.5
I assume you've read my headgasket/turbo article (link below), since your aware of the different gasket types. I'm sure you will still want to turn up the fuel after you taste the performance improvement, so don't fool yourself into thinking you have that kind of restraint. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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