does anyone know of a company making these?? i have the 5er hitch and if possible would get a horse trailer with the 5er hitch. just do not want to spend the $$ for the GN adaptor for the bed rails
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my thoughts are by the time you get a trailer with a 5th wheel setup on it you would have more than exceeded the cost of a gooseneck hitch for your 5er rails. I personally have seen 1 small stock trailer with a 5th wheel setup that was custom built. And I have seen a lot of trailers.
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Ditto on Dually's post. If anyone makes a 5th wheel horse, they are rarer than hen's teeth, which means you'll pay a pretty penny to avoid the relatively nominal cost of installing a goose hitch. As in my and Dually's sigs, gooseneck horse trailers are very popular. You might check horsetrailerworld.com, which I believe has the widest reach of any horsetrailer site, but I doubt you'll find a 5th wheel horse. Most here swear by the B&W turnover ball, which I have and vouch for [it has a nice, if expensive, 5th Wheel attachment, too]
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I found this with a yahoo search http://www.pinemeadowfarms.com/Hitch_Adapters
you remove the bottom half of the gooseneck tube on the trailer and insert the kingpin unit.
I have a RBW fifthwheel hitch and a gooseneck ball plate that I interchange but it requires swapping out the two on the bedrails which is what you are wanting to avoid.
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I'm going to put one of the 5th wheel adapters on my new trailer...... mainly because it's going to be one heavy sucker, but also because I'm going to get an air-ride hitch so the trailer doesn't get beat up.
I see that maybe he doesn't want to change the hitch everytime he pulls a different trailer. Those fifth wheel hitches aren't exactly light weight. It makes perfect sense to me to change the goose to a king pin and it shouldn't cost much to do. Most trailer builders will install the king pin adapter instead of the goose if you request it.
Just recently I saw a wedge car trailer sitting in a lot that had a king pin in place of the goose.
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Unless your truck is super low I don't think you could get away with this on a torsion (SP) axle horse trailer. I know even with the goose neck coupler all the was retracted up into the down tube the trailer still sits about 1" to high in the front. Not a big deal until you start thinking about the extra 18" that the 5er hitch in the bed of the truck is going to add to your pin height. Not saying its impossible just going to be a major expense and undertaking. I think it would be much less hassle to just convert the 5er to gooseneck. A Lot less hassle there.
Just my $0.02
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I always thought the reason horse trailers had a GN type hitch was because the trailer is going "off road" ie., into pastures etc and needed to be able to tilt side to side a lot more than a 5th wheel trailer which has limited range of motion for on road stability. You might consider a B&W turnover GN hitch pin and can accommodate a companion 5th wheel type RV hitch.
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Dualie's right, I've seen one converted for the same reason as you are wanting to do, and the outer tube on the trailer has to be either trimmed quite a bit, or even cut loose from the frame and raised up higher. The above one I looked at had it sticking up into the tack compartment.
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I always thought the reason horse trailers had a GN type hitch was because the trailer is going "off road" ie., into pastures etc and needed to be able to tilt side to side a lot more than a 5th wheel trailer which has limited range of motion for on road stability. You might consider a B&W turnover GN hitch pin and can accommodate a companion 5th wheel type RV hitch.
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That was my understanding. Even though the newer more expensive 5th wheel hitches have a way to tilt side to side, not nearly as far as a gooseneck but there is SOME side to side movent. That and the fact that a gooseneck ball leaves the bed mostly wide open. making it easier to haul hay, a bike, wheelbarrow, really anything you need to with out having a Hugh Jazz 5er hitch in the way of ANYTHING you want to put in your bed
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1994 7.3 I.D.I. Navistar 444 CI
ATS Factory TURBO E4OD Red On white Crew Cab DRW 4:10 w/ AUBURN LIMITED SLIP
3" ATS Exhaust and turbo housing, Banks Trans Command, calibrated pump, K&N filter, Gruss style coolant filter, 203K+MI not a lick of trouble with the motor. now on 16th trans. 10 under factory 100K mile warranty
Alpine CVA-7878 XM radio 6cd changer 3 8" phoenix gold subs 75x4 Sony mobile ES gold 4ch amp, Sony 500W 1ch amp MB quart components in Q forms kick panels. 1 farad cap.
Pro car parts jewel cut headlamps and turn signals
APC clear cab markers, suvlights.com harness silverstar bulbs and L.E.D.'s in the fenders. IT's paid for and its MINE!
Family Toys and tools,
00'F350 psd CC Drw 2wd Bright Amber Western Hauler
SOLD 01' Peterbilt 330 4Dr. Texas trucks conversion cAt 350hp
02' Psd Excursion Limited ultimate Estate Green helliwig swaybar 101K miles
1996 fetherlite 4 horse GN, 2003 sooner 6 horse GN with midtack
thanks for the responses guys. i will probably just get the adaptor for the bed rails and use a GN.i was trying to find the most economical way to get this done. the girlfriends daughter just got a horse (arabian) (yes the daughter is ecstatic right now) and we also lease a horse that needs to be moved to the new barn to be with the arabian. GF and daughter want to ride in a few of the local competitions and do a few trail rides and i was trying to find the best way to do it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] looks like we will be looking for a 3 horse slant load, maybe with living quarters. lots of $$$$$ for a few hauls. the barn has a rental unit, but its usually spoken for. anyone got a wrecked trailer that is repairable they want to unload cheap?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/depressed.gif[/img]
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1966 Bronco gonna start restoration soon FOR SALE
1977 Bronco to follow the '66 FOR SALE
1994 camaro 189k miles- runs like a top
1988 gmc G2500 blueprinted 355- my tow vehicle prior to the PSD
1993 Terry resort 5'er/voyager xp/reese
1997 Champion 191 w/200 vindicator--75mph on gps
1989 Formula 242/330hp/454 lots of goodies
Welcome to the horse world! A gooseneck is a better ride for the horses than a bumper pull, far more popular with the horsey set - but you'll find that demand means that used gooses [esp. all-aluminums, but really anything other than a goose stock trailer] will cost you much more than a comparable [e.g., 3 horse slant load] bumper pull. check horsetrailerworld.com; horsecity.com; and your local horse groups newsletters. Adding an LQ ups the ante even more! If you are trying to keep your costs down, and bumper pull, 2 or 3 horse slant load, w/o LQ, will more likely present bargains ....
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