I posted before about needing 7 new tires..well i had the 15" rims. I got a great deal on 7 16" rims...so i bought them.
My question is ...for my 5er listed below..what size tire first..and second....will that trailer do OK with DENMAN. XPS rib tires look awesome ..but dang i have to buy SEVEN of the..that'll break the bank!! haha
i have read all of the past posts...so can someone talk me into a tire and size for my application? *
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2002 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4 LB , Shadow Gray, Edge 4.5" w/ dual bilsteins up front/ Toyo Open Country M/T 315-75-16. Stock Motor 7.3, dual alts / 3 guage pillar pod, Auto Meter/ 5" turbo back magnaflow exhaust w/Aeroturbine muffler & 6" Jardine tip/ Husky 24k 5th wheel / Air Lift Bags.
John Wood Transmission / DP tuner / 08' rear diff cover
Look at BFGoodrich Commercial T/As.. I put 4 of them on my 5er (LT235/85R16 E) for about $140 each. Rated at 3042lbs at 80psi. .. no problems in the first 3K miles... Tire Specs for BFGoodrich Commercial T/A All-Season
Assuming that your original tires were ST225/75R15D, those had a weight capacity of 2,540 per tire. So any trailer tire with a weight capacity of 2,540 or more would probably do for your application. LT215/85R16 is a common size for dually pickups, and it would work for you - provided you find one rated "all position" or ST. Cheap LT tires won't do if they're not rated all position.
Several brands of tires available in ST235/80R16 or ST235/85R16, including Denman and Goodyear.
Very few brands available with 16" sizes in LT and all position. Most LT tires are fine for steer or drive axles, but not for trailer axles, so they're not rated "all position". Of course, the XPS comes in several 16" sizes rated all position, but they're not cheap.
Last edited by SmokeyWren : 08-06-2008 at 07:49 PM.
With a hauler that big you need the "G" rated tires.
Disagree.
If his trailer came with 15" tires, then he probably has three 5k axles for a combined GAWR of 15k and a GVWR of around 17k. He only "needs" load range D tires to have over 2500 pounds per tire (5,000 pounds per axle) weight capacity. But the extra wiggle room of load range E would be nice. Load range G would be expensive overkill.
XPS rib tires look awesome ..but dang i have to buy SEVEN of the..that'll break the bank!! haha
i have read all of the past posts...so can someone talk me into a tire and size for my application? *
Considering the money you have wrapped up in your toys, IMHO you shouldn't go cheap on tires.
Until two days ago I also would also have been a strong supporter of Goodyear G614's. Now it's goodbye Goodyear....forever.
I had my right front trailer tire literally explode while traveling I80 at 53MPH. It was two years old, had 70% tread left, had been on the road 16,243 miles, was aired at 100PSI and was loaded at 2750lb's.......well below rated weight of 3450 at 100PSI. It blew so forcefully it blew the 110lb rated rim apart.
No warning and no explanation but Les Schwab is going to adjust me out of the G614's and into XPS's. They don't have the "stated capacity" of the 614's but the 614's obviously don't either. I have never read any reports of XPS's throwing tread or exploding.
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2001 F550, Crew Cab, Royal Sport bed, John Woods transmission, 4.88 gears, Gear Vendor, A pillar gauges, Banks Power Elbow, 4" turbo back exhaust, Cyclone fan, Zoodad, AFE Magnum Force intake system, Westin Nerf Bars, 70 gal.aux tank(installed in the bed gravity feed), 10 wheel TireSentry pressure monitoring system, pulling a Dutchmen 35SRV toyhauler with a Harley Roadking Classic or a Polaris RZR in the "garage".
Gotta agree with not going cheap on the tires.
One bad blow out will more than make up the difference in repairs.
For size, 225/75/16 will fit under your Warrior if you have it at the stock height.
If you have your axles flipped, you can run any size you want.
Just bite the bullet and get the Ribs.
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Well , after all that stressing out guys..i went with the Maxxis 8008 10 ply. I got a real good ..what i think...deal on them. Plus the tire shop gave me a 2 year unlimited warranty...their weight rating is way up there....we'll have to see how it goes! Thanks for all the help. Yes i know i should have went with the xps ribs..but we'll see! have had great luck with the maxxis tires on my other car trailer.
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2002 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4 LB , Shadow Gray, Edge 4.5" w/ dual bilsteins up front/ Toyo Open Country M/T 315-75-16. Stock Motor 7.3, dual alts / 3 guage pillar pod, Auto Meter/ 5" turbo back magnaflow exhaust w/Aeroturbine muffler & 6" Jardine tip/ Husky 24k 5th wheel / Air Lift Bags.
John Wood Transmission / DP tuner / 08' rear diff cover
Weekend Warrior SLC 3905 is only 16,000 gvwr, with 2425 on the hitch, leaving 2262.5 lbs on each trailer tire, when loaded to gvwr.
I think that you made an excellent choice to go with the Maxxis 8008 10 ply. You can carry up to 3420 lbs per tire; so you have a big margin of safety.
Weekend Warrior SLC 3905 is only 16,000 gvwr, with 2425 on the hitch, leaving 2262.5 lbs on each trailer tire, when loaded to gvwr.
I think that you made an excellent choice to go with the Maxxis 8008 10 ply. You can carry up to 3420 lbs per tire; so you have a big margin of safety.
Above is the link to the tire inflation table. 40psi should do it for your Weekend Warrior when loaded to gvwr.
I love it when people use manufactures info and believe it.
Plenty of people out there have weighed the SLC3905 and those trailers have over 4000lbs of pin weight.
Heck, my LE3905 Warrior has 2700lbs of pin weight(empty trailer) and 3400lbs of pin weight when it is loaded up.
I have been to the CAT scale a few times in different configurations.
Hope you have good luck with those tires.
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I love it when people use manufactures info and believe it.
Isn't that the truth. It's been a known fact, anything close to mgfr' dry weight and dry weight you read on the truck scales when you drive it off the RV sales lot is purely coincidental. People have complained about that fact for years in the RV mags.
I love it when people use manufactures info and believe it.
Plenty of people out there have weighed the SLC3905 and those trailers have over 4000lbs of pin weight.
Heck, my LE3905 Warrior has 2700lbs of pin weight(empty trailer) and 3400lbs of pin weight when it is loaded up.
I have been to the CAT scale a few times in different configurations.
Hope you have good luck with those tires.
Ok, lets use your numbers. You say that trailer has over 4000 lbs of pin weight. Lets say 4100 lbs. That leaves 16,000 gvwr minus 4100 lbs pin weight equals 11,900 lbs on the trailer tires when loaded to maximum gvwr. His six Maxxis trailer tires at 3420 lbs per tire give him 20,520 lbs of weight carrying capacity on the trailer tires; so he has 20,520 lbs capacity minus 11,900 lbs load on trailer tires at maximum gvwr equals 8,620 lbs of extra margin of safety.
You're right, 8,620 lbs margin of safety on the trailer tires is treading on pretty thin ice!!! He had better upgrade those tires right away!!!
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2001 F350 XLT 4X4, shift on the fly, 38 gal fuel tank, running boards, sliding rear window, black, crew cab, long bed, 4.10, automatic transmission, 11,500 gvwr, 20,000 gcwr, 7500 gvw, dual rear wheels, 7.3l turbo diesel, completely stock, 114,00 miles when purchased, now has 125,000 miles, repairs so far: starter, batteries, cps.
2005 Nomad Rampage toyhauler made by Skyline. 11,500lb gvwr.
Ok, lets use your numbers. You say that trailer has over 4000 lbs of pin weight. Lets say 4100 lbs. That leaves 16,000 gvwr minus 4100 lbs pin weight equals 11,900 lbs on the trailer tires when loaded to maximum gvwr. His six Maxxis trailer tires at 3420 lbs per tire give him 20,520 lbs of weight carrying capacity on the trailer tires; so he has 20,520 lbs capacity minus 11,900 lbs load on trailer tires at maximum gvwr equals 8,620 lbs of extra margin of safety.
You're right, 8,620 lbs margin of safety on the trailer tires is treading on pretty thin ice!!! He had better upgrade those tires right away!!!
Well, for one, there is alot more than 11,900lbs on the axles. Again, research would show you, that particular model goes way over the GVWR of 16,000lbs very easily. There have been some owners that have gotten their rigs restickered for 17,000 or even 18,000lbs from Warrior.
I know of 1 person that weighed in at over 15,000lbs with no water or toys in the back yet.... Do that math on that one....
I wasn't bashing his tire choice, I was stating that I get a kick out of people that still believe salesman and RV brochures.....
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I wasn't bashing his tire choice, I was stating that I get a kick out of people that still believe salesman and RV brochures.....[/quote]
lincster..i took your advice very seriously as you're a sand toy guy with knowledge on these rigs. they are very heavy, no doubt. I hope i'm not negligent in my choice..just tried to get an affordable tire that wasnt' over loaded with a decent track record. I have had my share of blowouts over the years..usually they don't make you change lanes or flip over..so i'll have to deal with damages if one happens. Then i'll be cursing myself saying "shoulda listened to lincster" BTW lincster,....nice sandcar!
I did get five trouble free years even with the cheesy 15" on there..so hopefully that has something to do with my driving habits....we'll see.
thanks for all of yoru imput though..so far one trip on the maxxis across the 120* desert to the river and no problems. if one blows out i'll have six maxxis for sale and 7 xps ribs on order!
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2002 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4 LB , Shadow Gray, Edge 4.5" w/ dual bilsteins up front/ Toyo Open Country M/T 315-75-16. Stock Motor 7.3, dual alts / 3 guage pillar pod, Auto Meter/ 5" turbo back magnaflow exhaust w/Aeroturbine muffler & 6" Jardine tip/ Husky 24k 5th wheel / Air Lift Bags.
John Wood Transmission / DP tuner / 08' rear diff cover
Well, for one, there is alot more than 11,900lbs on the axles. Again, research would show you, that particular model goes way over the GVWR of 16,000lbs very easily. There have been some owners that have gotten their rigs restickered for 17,000 or even 18,000lbs from Warrior.
I know of 1 person that weighed in at over 15,000lbs with no water or toys in the back yet.... Do that math on that one....
I wasn't bashing his tire choice, I was stating that I get a kick out of people that still believe salesman and RV brochures.....
OK, lets assume that he does load up the trailer to 18,000 lbs. Subtract another 2000 lbs from his margin of safety, and now he is down to 8,620 minus 2000 equals 6,620 lbs margin of safety.
I'm glad that I was able to give you a chuckle because you thought that I was dumb enough to believe that the numbers given by the manufacturers were gospel. The bottom line though, is that even if his margin of safety is only 6,620 lbs rather than 8,620, he still should be confident that he has made a good choice for tires, and he doesn't need to throw his new tires away and go out and buy ones with even more margin of safety. I doubt very seriously that there are very many people who have anywhere near his margin of safety.
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2001 F350 XLT 4X4, shift on the fly, 38 gal fuel tank, running boards, sliding rear window, black, crew cab, long bed, 4.10, automatic transmission, 11,500 gvwr, 20,000 gcwr, 7500 gvw, dual rear wheels, 7.3l turbo diesel, completely stock, 114,00 miles when purchased, now has 125,000 miles, repairs so far: starter, batteries, cps.
2005 Nomad Rampage toyhauler made by Skyline. 11,500lb gvwr.
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