The brake controller has to be adjusted constantly. IF I leave the highway, when I break the TT yanks the truck to a bone jarring stop. IF I adjust it for the city then the truck does all of the slowing on the highway.
Also the trailer brakes apply at the same pressue, no matter how hard I apply the brake pedal.
I am using an old envoy model I believe.
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1990 F-350 Dually 4X4 CC Rebuilt Turbo and NEW 7.3L DAS engine, rebuilt rear diff, Reman E4OD Stage 1 injectors Stage 1 pump Baumann recal kit and TDC for E4OD dead trans again...
2004 F-350 4X4 CC 6.0 PSD
2004 Wilderness 320dbhs TT
<font color="green">There is a resistor available that slows down the current, before it gets to the trailer brakes.
It can be spliced in the trailer brake wire, either on the truck, or on the trailer.
It is simply a plastic base, about 3" x 12", with a metal coil that makes a loop from one terminal, to the other end of the base, and back to the beginning end, to another terminal.
They cost very little, and I can vouch for their effectiveness.
Not to sell you a new controller but my prodigy solved all those issues, once it is set up then it is good to go wether you are on the interstate or secondary streets you will have consistant breaking.
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Thanks Teebird , I just bought one and a wiring harness ,shipped $120.
I almost had one on ebay today for $75 plus $10 ship. It went for $76. It was version 2.4 tho , don't know if it made any difference.
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Sounds alittle like my older voyager. Have to reset/tweek sometimes depending on road conditions. However, I can lock up T. brakes if enough voltage applied or just opposite if less needed. Prodigy is on my list.
LRider..not sure I understand concept "limits voltage" with your mod. Is voltage still adjustable ? TIA
LRider..not sure I understand concept "limits voltage" with your mod. Is voltage still adjustable ? TIA
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I guess a better way of looking at it is that it SLOWS DOWN the signal to the brake-magnets.
There is an adjustable slide-bar, on the two-sided coil, that can be slid closer, or farther, from the main terminals, using more, or less, of the current-slowing ability of the coils.
This piece is so simple, but durned hard to explain.
It looks somewhat like an electric radiant heat coil.
I wish I could afford a new truck with tow command! but I can not. My goal is to get eneough invested in this truck that I could have bought a new one for the same price [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img] Somedays old cars feel like that. I just do not have the funds to pull that off.
So it sounds like a new brake contoller is the solution. And a good one at that.
Thanks for all of your help!
Doug
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1990 F-350 Dually 4X4 CC Rebuilt Turbo and NEW 7.3L DAS engine, rebuilt rear diff, Reman E4OD Stage 1 injectors Stage 1 pump Baumann recal kit and TDC for E4OD dead trans again...
2004 F-350 4X4 CC 6.0 PSD
2004 Wilderness 320dbhs TT
From what I've heard, the tow command uses the Prodigy stopping logic. I think you'll like it. Every once in a while mine gets 'grabby' but the Prodigy has a little button with 4 settings on the initial brake application when you just tap the brake pedal. In stop-n-go traffic I put little or no initial braking action. When cruising down the highway, I put it up a couple.
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I also had a Voyager till I purchased a new truck. I purchased a Prodigy and what a difference! So much smoother and safer it isn't funny. Pulled the same trailer with both of my trucks and the Voyager will always want to lock up the brakes where as the Prodigy applies the brakes smoothly, just as I want. Save yourself some headaches and get a new Prodigy. You won'r be sorry! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img]
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Tow Command is 100 times more than a prodigy ever thought of being.
I had Prodigies and they couldn't deal with heavy trailers (10 or more tons) without being too grabby or not reaching full current. Not enough decel on truck when you have heavy trailer to trigger full current ramp up.
Old truck has an old fashioned hydrauli-tapped Kelsey-Hayes that works GREAT and the new truck has the ITBC that works GREAT (other than the trailer disconnect warning being so sensitive to trailers that use the ball for ground....)
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2006 F450 CC Hauler bed 4x2 6.0 L Pstroke/Torqshift, Lariat, 4.88 r/a.
2006 F350 Lariat CC Dually 4X2, 6.0 TQShift 4.10 LS, STOCK.
36 feet on the floor Elite/Outlaw LQ horse trailer. Sooner 6 horse large dressing/ mid tack.
15 horses with good balance from being hauled behind a P'stroke.
Old truck has an old fashioned hydrauli-tapped Kelsey-Hayes that works GREAT
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I still have a few of the old Kelsay Hayes hydraulic-triggered controllers, and yes, they do work good.
I have burned up a few, while having to hold the brakes at a light, on a bad hill; but, any electric brake controller will soon melt, when the brakes are held for more than a minute, or so. </font>
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Tow Command is 100 times more than a prodigy ever thought of being.
I had Prodigies and they couldn't deal with heavy trailers (10 or more tons)...
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How does this apply to the subject trailer in his question? His trailer is no where near that weight. I've had my trailer close to maxed out at 10K and my Prodigy works great.
I see my post has an error, i meant 10,000 or more pounds, 5 or more tons. He never listed his trailer weight so neither of us knows if the weight I listed might be applicable. His symptoms match what I had with a few different electronic controllers that had no input from brake pedal postion or hydraulic force. Electronic controllers either do timed ramp up of current or they have deceleration sensor, some may have both of these. With a heavy trailer if you dial up the timed ramp type then the initial base current is high enough to give you a jolt as soon as the brake light switch closes. If controller is the decel type then a heavier trailer will not allow enough decel via truck brakes to give full current unless you dial up gain and then you still live with too much current on initial apply of brake pedal.
I didn't know how bad ALL of the electronic non-linked controllers were until I put an old fashioned one back on my truck and then I got the 06 with ITBC and further proved the hang-ons as less than stellar in performance.
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2006 F450 CC Hauler bed 4x2 6.0 L Pstroke/Torqshift, Lariat, 4.88 r/a.
2006 F350 Lariat CC Dually 4X2, 6.0 TQShift 4.10 LS, STOCK.
36 feet on the floor Elite/Outlaw LQ horse trailer. Sooner 6 horse large dressing/ mid tack.
15 horses with good balance from being hauled behind a P'stroke.
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