Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
   
Go Back   Diesel Forum - The Diesel Stop.com > Ford Diesels > Towing and Hauling
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Towing and Hauling Towing and hauling with Ford diesel trucks and vans.

       
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2005, 10:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ONTARIO CANADA
Posts: 85
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
BREAK AWAY ????????????

Can some one tell all about a break away for a 5th wheel trailer?? I have a tri-axel car trailer, 50 footer should i have one of these??




GREG
__________________
1989 F-350 SPEED 7.3
EXTENDED CAB
FIRST DESIEL LOOKING FOR TIPS.
gmdemo06 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-27-2005, 10:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
Lifetime Supporting Member
Lifetime Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wichita, Ks.
Posts: 4,679
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (2)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

They are required by law in almost every state these days on that size of trailer. Only a half a dozen or so states that dont require them yet. I think all states require them on the interstate.

Break Aways kit is a protective devices that applies the Trailer's Brakes if for some reason it gets detached from the towing vehicle. Uses a back up battery attatched to the trailer to apply the trailers brakes.
__________________
Just eating rainbows and butterflies

01 F350 dually 4x4 CC auto.
311 hp 610 torque a while back.
My Pickup
Some Photos and Sound Clips

Diesel Power & Performance Derby Ks.

#46
Kanman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2005, 10:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ONTARIO CANADA
Posts: 85
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

Can any one give me more info or a link for more info about this?? My trailer does not have this so I need to install one and i need to know how to wire it.




GREG
__________________
1989 F-350 SPEED 7.3
EXTENDED CAB
FIRST DESIEL LOOKING FOR TIPS.
gmdemo06 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2005, 11:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 464
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (1)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

I did a Google search and came up with THIS. Randy
__________________
03/95 (153k miles) PSD-XLT-SC-LB-4x2-E4OD-4.10LS, TEE5 w/SCMT-1705 tow setting, gutted EBPV w/SP"Dongle", turbo pedestal mod, BD downpipe w/3-1/2" straight pipe, TYMAR air w/update T-hose kit, coolant filter and HPX, Dacco "Super Hauler" TC, TransGo s-k w/.427" Sonnax valve, TC lockup sw mod, 4R100 pan, True-Cool 4590, Perma-Cool ATF filter, 08 Finned Diff Cover, stacked plate pwr-steering cooler, Dual Idler mod, DIY 2µ~ab bypass w/Delo400, fuel filler mods, 80 gal. transfer tank, spin-on fuel pre-filter/H20 seperator, Stancor GPR, 3 Di-Pricol/WD gauges on pillar, A/C mod, Rancho 9000X's, DRL's, Lund Moon Visor, Carr steps, FoMoCo tripod RV mirrors, American Racing Alloys, RBW Lil Rocker(modified), Prodigy, 2002 Wilderness Lite 24-5c Northwest Edition, EU2000i's....


Pic's
PSDWILDERNESS is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 11:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 586
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (13)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

I think the states that require them only require them for non-fifth wheel trailers so you're off the hook. Goosenecks and bumper pulls need them but fivers don't.

Ever seen one on a 18 wheeler at a truck stop?
Ag__Teacher is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 12:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 321
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

18 wheelers have air brakes. If the tralier disconnects, it tears off the air lines and once the brake system looses air the brakes lock down.
When they put their brakes on pressure is reduced from the system...engaging the brakes. Adding pressure releases the brakes. Opposite of hydraulic or electric systems.
__________________
2002 F350 4x4 CC DRW Lariat 7.3 auto 4.10 LS diff.(bought 5-05 @ 76,000 miles) Pyro, Boost, and Trans gauges. AIH delete. Tru-Cool Max trans cooler. Magnafine filter. Royal Purple MAX synthetic ATF. 55 gallon aux bed tank. 2LO Mod.

2002 Holiday Rambler 30-SKS Alumascape fifth wheel
24 foot gooseneck livestock trailer

1940 McCormick Deering restored Farmall H, used weekly (the grand-daddy of International)
Used goats for rent
twobit is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 01:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 464
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (1)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

[ QUOTE ]
I think the states that require them only require them for non-fifth wheel trailers so you're off the hook. Goosenecks and bumper pulls need them but fivers don't.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think they must be required in many if not all states, my cheap a$$ Fleetwood has a break away, I am sure if it were not required they wouldn't have included it. Also, on the RV.net forums this is a common question in the 5er forum "what do you connect your break away cable to?"...... Randy
PSDWILDERNESS is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 01:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NE Kansas
Posts: 1,730
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

wouldn't that be neat with our trailers though, to have electric brakes work in reverse. No more unknown problems with trailers, or idiots wihtout brakes in the other lanes.

It'd be an emergency brake. I wish I had one for my trailer. It's scary depending on two tires to hold all that weight on a hill.
__________________
2006 GMC K3500 CC DRW 4x4
1994 F-350 DRW PS w/ zf5
1996 Town Car
mgraveman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 04:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
Lifetime Supporting Member
 
johnm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Holly Hill, Florida, 32117
Posts: 3,286
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (138)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

look here and it does NOT make a diference if its a fifth wheel or a bumber pull trailer, it goes by weight. most trailer sales places include one but do not mention anything about the laws. the less information they give you the better it looks for them. i think they should be able to and required to pass on the trailer towing laws for the sate of purchase, but oh well....

this has a good breakdown of the states towing laws. (last update was 04)

http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htm
__________________
Sorry, it takes me so long to respond. I have difficulty typing and seeing small type. I can read better if it is in caps, so I'm not shouting, just trying to see what I type.

2004 VW Golf TDI - Automatic, 100 HP Diesel gets 42 MPG around town. XM Satellite Radio
2001 Monaco Knight - 265 HP Cummins gets 12.5 MPG towing the TDI



click on or cut & paste for forum rules
http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/forumrules.php3
johnm is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 09:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,813
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (10)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

To answer your question. Yes your fifthwheel needs a brakaway. The brakaway is there to stop the trailer from running over YOU. and the other people out on the highway with you.Big trucks use a spring brake that is air activated. Air on releases the brakes air off sets brakes. Electric and hydrolic use power 12 volts to activate the brakes. the battery on the trailer 4or 5 amp is just enough to activate the electric or hydrolic activator 1 time. It does not take a genius to figure ot that if the trailer comes off and you are in frount and you stop and the trailer has no way to stop. were does it stop. After it hits something right. You are in frount.
j_apetersen is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2005, 10:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ONTARIO CANADA
Posts: 85
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

I GUESS IF I GO TO MY TRAILER SUPPLY STORE AND BUY ONE IT WOULD COME WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON INSLAATION??



GREG
__________________
1989 F-350 SPEED 7.3
EXTENDED CAB
FIRST DESIEL LOOKING FOR TIPS.
gmdemo06 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2005, 12:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,813
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (10)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

It is a simple instulation for electric brakes and electrolic. must have power 12 volt from towing vehicle and brake line. hardest part is getting battery box that will not brake from the pounding from the battery in the box. If you allready have batterys in the trailer you dont need the battery Just need switch.mount it close to the hitch away from the swing of the hitch. one wire goes to the battery and one goes to the brake activation wire. When you pull the key out of the switch it should activate the brakes. make shure you hook the wire from the key to a spot on the truck not the hitch. If hitch brakes and it goes with the brakeaway it dont work.
j_apetersen is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2005, 10:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
Lifetime Supporting Member
Lifetime Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wichita, Ks.
Posts: 4,679
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (2)
Re: BREAK AWAY ????????????

[ QUOTE ]
look here and it does NOT make a diference if its a fifth wheel or a bumber pull trailer, it goes by weight. most trailer sales places include one but do not mention anything about the laws. the less information they give you the better it looks for them. i think they should be able to and required to pass on the trailer towing laws for the sate of purchase, but oh well....

this has a good breakdown of the states towing laws. (last update was 04)

http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htm

[/ QUOTE ]


yup yup yup guys it goes by weight!!! Something else to consider, and is often overlooked. The brake away kits are only as good as the battery that is running them. Check your batteries often. They need to be recharged on a monthly (probably weekly) basis.
__________________
Just eating rainbows and butterflies

01 F350 dually 4x4 CC auto.
311 hp 610 torque a while back.
My Pickup
Some Photos and Sound Clips

Diesel Power & Performance Derby Ks.

#46
Kanman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Diesel Forum - The Diesel Stop.com > Ford Diesels > Towing and Hauling



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Search Used Trucks
Search for used vehicles by ZIP, please enter Zipcode below:
Google Links

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Wheel & Tire Center


Sponsors

» Auto Resources
Locate Ford Dealerships to find a new Ford for sale, Ford Mustang and other car models such as the Ford Escape.
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer