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Old 09-10-2009, 12:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Bumper pull to fifth wheel adapter

There was a company a few years back that made a bolt on adapter to use a fifth wheel or gooseneck hitch with a bumper pull trailer. They went in a different direction and quit making them, and I was wondering if anyone knows if another company is making something similar. I would like the option of being able to use either style hitch depending on the truck I'm using at the time.
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There was a company a few years back that made a bolt on adapter to use a fifth wheel or gooseneck hitch with a bumper pull trailer.
why wouldn't you just use a normal hitch? most trucks have them.
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For the most part, I prefer the way a fifth-wheel pulls and rides.
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I don't mean to question you, but are you sure?
I can't even picture what it may look like. Seems like it would have to an addition to the trailer or something. TT to goose/5er? hum.
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Yeah, I am not following this either. I have seen a few fifthwheel to bumper pulls but never a bumper pull to fifthweel.
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I have been trying to find a write-up I recall of someone who did this for a flatbed. It actually made the deck area more or less the length of the bumper pull from coupler to tail when it was hooked up for the fiver.

I can't find it, I will keep looking and post if I do.

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that converts a fifth wheel trailer to a bumper pull; not what the OP was looking for
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I found the thread but, unfortunately, it relies on photographs to demonstrate a lot of how it was done and none of the photos anywhere in the entire thread are hosted anymore. Really too bad, I recall this being a well done design and execution. When hooked up as a gooseneck it was hard to tell the base trailer was a bumper pull unless you looked pretty close. Built by a member here, but he has not posted since June of 2008 so I imagine it would be pretty hard to run him down.

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Anyway, proof it has been done. The builder can use the trailer as a bumper pull (he used a 16000 lb 20' flatbed) or bolt on the gooseneck adapter and have an 8 ton gooseneck. It would be no big deal to build it as a fiver instead of a gooseneck.


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This is what I had in mind, although not folding. I found this online after about an hour of searching.
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ya they usually are custom made i remember the one dave brought up it was a good design and a little crazy but worked well
on edit fairfax
those things are unsafe they do not give enough weight on the bumper to safely pull a fver or gn trailer
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Looks like it would be more trouble than it is worth. Just my 2 cents
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those things are unsafe they do not give enough weight on the bumper to safely pull a fver or gn trailer
No personal experience with one, but I think that dolly should be "safe", and here's why. The insert goes into the truck's receiver hitch in a solid mounting manner. There is no pivot or turn between the wheels of the dolly and the drive wheels on the truck. In other words, the dolly's wheels and the truck's wheels are always on the same plane, so the dolly becomes an extension of the truck, much as if you added an extra axle to the truck's frame. If you did add an extra axle to the truck, it would have springs and be allowed to go up and down, and the dolly allows that too.

Where I see the problem with this set up is in tight parking lot corners, where the dolly and drive wheels have to scuff sideways. I know how hard that is on a multi axle trailer, and would expect the same from this.

If there is a pivot or hinge in the dolly's insert for the truck's receiver hitch, than disregard all the above, but I don't think that is the case.
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