I'm going to be using the truck in my sig to travel up to Waterbury, CT to pick up my uncle's Suburban. I'll be using a 16' car trailer. I've never towed this kind of weight without a WD setup. How can I be sure that I'm loading the car properly so that I don't have a sway issue coming home?
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Load the trailer properly with the correct amount of tongue weight, or a little heavy. Then just drive slow. Does the trailer at least have electric brakes?
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I'm going to be using the truck in my sig to travel up to Waterbury, CT to pick up my uncle's Suburban. I'll be using a 16' car trailer. I've never towed this kind of weight without a WD setup. How can I be sure that I'm loading the car properly so that I don't have a sway issue coming home?
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You're going to get a suburban on a 16' trailer? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
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Are you sure a suburban will fit on a 16' trailer? You'll certainly have several feet of overhang off the back, and there will be no adjusting for tongue weight, as you'll have no room to shift the suburban fore or aft. The Suburban is only a few inches shorter than your Excursion.
But beyond that, my last Suburban was 7000 lbs, and I suspect it was heavier in the back than in the front. Therefore, you won't need to worry about WD hitch, as I doubt you'll have enough tongue weight as it is.
Were it me in your shoes, I'd try to rent a longer trailer, maybe from an equipment rental store instead of a u-haul or ryder type store. Or, drop the drive shafts and use a tow bar to pull it on the flat. Or, if you have to use the 16' trailer to haul the suburban, with the rear tires just catching the last of the trailer and the last few feet of the Suburban hanging off behind, I'd go REAL SLOW and do it in the wee hours of a weekday morning. Good Luck.
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Make sure you have 5000lb+ axles if you're hauling a Suburban. They aren't light.
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For sure, and also check the weight rating of the tires. Most 16' flatbed trailers Ive seen have 2 3500# axles and usually the 15" tires are rated under 2000# each.
You may be pushing the envelope! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
Is driving the 'Burb an option? Better safe than sorry..........
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actualy, you probably will have a bit of adjustment on a 16 foot trailer.. the have a slightly shorter wheelbase than a long box truck. I've seen a long box truck on a 12 foot trailer a few times, but there is only maybe 1-2 inches of adjustment front to back with it..
In all reality, I'd be more worried about weight than length with a 16 footer.
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Sounds as though I should verify the length of the trailer. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I was so darned happy just to find one that I could borrow for nothing, I didn't even think that length might be a problem.
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I think we are going on the assumption that this is at least a 12k or 14k lb trailer, 2x 6 or 7k lbs axles. He should be fine with that. IT can be loaded far enough forward to give him plenty of tongue weight to I bet. (The bumper can hang over the nose some, if the tongue is long enough on the trailer) A 'Burbon only weighs maybe 65oo? Maybe 7k,,,,
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I wouldn't assume anything. We haven't heard if this is even a tandem axle trailer or a single axle.
OP, if you attempt this, make double sure you pull the truck straight on so the engine is nearest the tow vehicle. In this situation you definitely want as much weight as possible on your rear bumper. If the engine weight is turned the other way you'll sway to the point of losing control of your vehicle.
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my 2 cents is just dont go over the weight of the trailer you go over the truck they will only know if you get pulled over so tie down engine front and stay the speed limit or maybe 5 under mostly these trucks can haul something like that if its just under the trailer weight empty the tanks in the burban to prevent sloshing and use tire tiedowns and also tie down the frame to prevent bouncing you should be good ca to ma [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] i think if you could take some pictures to show off the setup of a large surburban on the small trailer
onl last thought do you need flags? for over the end of the trailer i no you need them in pa if its over on a truck ex:10' board in 8' bed
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Do you know the weight rating of the trailer? Look at the wheels...if they are 15" 5 lug it probably has 3500# axles, if 6 lug 15" wheels it is likely a 5000# axle, if 16" wheels usually a 7000# axle.
The trailer probably weighs 1500#, the Burb from 6000-7000# (C/K1500 or C/K2500) equals gross tow weight around 8000-9000# minus the tongue weight of maybe 600-800# means approx. 7000-8000# on the axles & tires.
If the trailer is rated for it and you load it as suggested above should be okay.
Be safe!
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