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Old 05-20-2008, 10:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Electric over Hydraulic brakes on a gooseneck?

When I order my new gooseneck trailer, I am leaning towards getting it with electric over hydraulic brakes versus standard electric ones. Looking for feedback from anyone who has or has had the electric over hydro setup, pros? cons? Thanks for the help.
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The "electric" part means it works similar to ordinary electric trailer brakes in that it is controlled by an electric trailer brake controller.

The hydraulic part is where it's much, much better than ordinary electric brakes. And like hydraulic brakes on cars and trucks, you might have an option of either drum brakes or disk brakes. The drum brakes are less expensive, but subject to fading when used hard. Disk brakes are much better, and less subject to fading.

The only problem with electric over hydraulic brakes is you have to have a trailer brake controller that is made for your exact brand/style of brakes. The optional Ford factory brake controller won't work on most brands of electric over hydraulic brakes. Ordinary cheaper electric trailer brake controllers won't work. So be sure you have a source for a matching controller before you buy a trailer with electric over hydraulic brakes.

So order the trailer with electric over hydraulic disk brakes and including the matching brake controller and you're good to go.
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Ive got a Prodigy brake controller, and as far as I know it is ok to use with that style of braking system. The trailer will be occasionally loaded to around 26k, would the electric over hydro disc brake setup be the best choice for me?
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Q.) Will the Prodigy® work with Electric-Hydraulic Brakes?A.) Tekonsha® brake controls are designed to operate electric brakes that are activated by magnets. They have not been tested for the use on electric/hydraulic brake systems. Please contact the manufacturer of the hydraulic control unit for their recommendations. Tekonsha

Here is the scoop on the Prodigy brake controller from the manufacturer's website. Apparently they haven't tested them on the electric over hydraulic brakes and don't know whether or not they will work.
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Ive got a Prodigy brake controller, and as far as I know it is ok to use with that style of braking system. The trailer will be occasionally loaded to around 26k, would the electric over hydro disc brake setup be the best choice for me?
Electric over hydraulic disk brakes are the way to go. . .now all you need is a truck rated for that trailer...
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400hp 8.3L Cummins powered FL70 is in the works, along with a 20 ton trailer, but I still need something to haul my off road trucks, skidsteers, mini excavators, personal cars, etc...... around with. And I cant afford to buy a crew cab FL70, so its a day cab that will be used more for work and trips by myself or with one other person. I do use the crew cab as it was intended once in a while, and still tow a decent load behind my truck. Im not saying Ill be crossing the scales at a max of 37,100 GCW, but the weights are bound to be up there sometimes. Thats why I want the best braking options I can have.
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I have never read a bad thing about elec. over hyd. brakes. If you can float the money I would get a Brake Smart controller. Have also read they are the best. I don't know what they're called now, as I think the name has changed.
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I have never read a bad thing about elec. over hyd. brakes. If you can float the money I would get a Brake Smart controller. Have also read they are the best. I don't know what their called now, as I think the name has changed.
They are sold by Dr. Performance and IMHO are best brake controller for what you want to do. I have a 4Star horse trailer that weighs 10K# empty and it is rated to 23K# GVWR. I have had it a few # over 18K# loaded for a large horse show. The truck in my signature had no problems with that load. The Dexter Electric over Hydraulic Disc brakes are superb.
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The Titan BrakeRite works with every brake control and has a converter to work with the Ford and GM integrated brake controls.
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The Titan BrakeRite works with every brake control and has a converter to work with the Ford and GM integrated brake controls.
The The DEXTER Electric / Hydraulic Disc Brake Actuator works with the '08 Tow Command on my F450. The disc brakes are the way to go IMO.
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