Hey guys I was just curious, I am in the process of buying an exhaust brake for my 99 f350 six speed. I am curious if the electonic units that use the stock EBPV are any good, or if I need to buy the $1K plus unit. I have heard that the electronic units can damage the stock valve, but I don't haul an extremely heavy load. I would like to save all the money possible, but I don't want to short change my truck. If it is safer to buy the more expensive unit I will, but I was hoping I could get some opinions and facts about the two first. Thanks for your help in advance.
Kevin
__________________ 99 PSD F250, Six speed, 373's, DRW Conversion, Alcoa Wheels, Firestone towing bags, Homemade 40 gallon auxiliary fuel tank, Tymar intake, 4in straight pipe out the side, CCV Mod, DP Tuner 5 Position Switch...40,60,80 Economy,Performance!! Overboost Annihilator, DIY High Idle, EBPV Brake, Power Pedal Mod, Autometer pyro and boost gauges, Sony Deck, 2 10in Subs, Cobra Nigh****ch, and always wanting more!!!!
If you want it to really work I would spend the big money
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1996 F250 4x4 ext. cab, long bed 5 spd. 3.55ls, Tymar Intake, Tymar 4" downpipe and 4" exhaust. AIC, B&W turnoverball, EBPV brake, tranny temp gauge, boost gauge, and egt gauge. 235k miles and thousands of $$$$ in maintenance and repairs.
I've had both. First I had a PacBrake on my 96 and it worked great [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]. I installed a US Gear unit on my 99 and hated it [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]. When it worked it worked good, but every year it had to be re-built [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]. I replaced it with an SP Diesel electronic unit when I installed my 4" exhaust. It uses the EBPV. Does a good job [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]. If I was going to tow all the time, I would get a PacBrake but for the towing I now do, the SP unit does the job [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img].
JMHO, Bob
__________________ Retired: UAW 383 12.01.03 after 32 years at BENDIX, Allied, AlliedSignal, BOSCH, St Joseph MI Plant 99.5 F-250 CC SRW: Automatic, 3:73 Gears, Tymar Intake, SpeedLiner Bed Coating, Timbren Rubber Springs, Hayden Trans Cooler, Perma Cool Trans Filter, Sonnax Valve & Tricumulator Springs, Reese 15,000lb 5th Wheel Hitch, Tekonsha Prodigy Trailer Brake Controller, Handy Flow Thru T-gate, AFE 4" Exhaust, Warn Hubs, SP Diesel EB, GOS Headlight Harness, Smoked Headlights & Corners with Sylvania Silverstar ULTRA SU bulbs, 08 Sterling Alum Diff Cover, Delphi XM Radio, TomTom One XL-S GPS with ProClip mount DIESELSITE Stuff: Super Chip 1705 Programmer, AutoMeter Lunar Gauges In Under The Cubby Hole Mount, AC Control Valve, AIH Plug, Coolant filter, Wicked Wheel, BilletTstat Housing, 203 degree Tstat & HX cross over hose..
How much did you spend on the SP Unit and where did you get it if you don't mind me asking? and are all the electric units the same? Better makes different kinds?
Thanks,
Kevin
__________________ 99 PSD F250, Six speed, 373's, DRW Conversion, Alcoa Wheels, Firestone towing bags, Homemade 40 gallon auxiliary fuel tank, Tymar intake, 4in straight pipe out the side, CCV Mod, DP Tuner 5 Position Switch...40,60,80 Economy,Performance!! Overboost Annihilator, DIY High Idle, EBPV Brake, Power Pedal Mod, Autometer pyro and boost gauges, Sony Deck, 2 10in Subs, Cobra Nigh****ch, and always wanting more!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CalfRopin_N_PwrStrokn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much did you spend on the SP Unit and where did you get it if you don't mind me asking? and are all the electric units the same? Better makes different kinds?
Thanks,
Kevin </div></div>
The one that I have is $249.00 and the newer model is $349.00. The new one uses the cruise control buttons.
Bob
__________________ Retired: UAW 383 12.01.03 after 32 years at BENDIX, Allied, AlliedSignal, BOSCH, St Joseph MI Plant 99.5 F-250 CC SRW: Automatic, 3:73 Gears, Tymar Intake, SpeedLiner Bed Coating, Timbren Rubber Springs, Hayden Trans Cooler, Perma Cool Trans Filter, Sonnax Valve & Tricumulator Springs, Reese 15,000lb 5th Wheel Hitch, Tekonsha Prodigy Trailer Brake Controller, Handy Flow Thru T-gate, AFE 4" Exhaust, Warn Hubs, SP Diesel EB, GOS Headlight Harness, Smoked Headlights & Corners with Sylvania Silverstar ULTRA SU bulbs, 08 Sterling Alum Diff Cover, Delphi XM Radio, TomTom One XL-S GPS with ProClip mount DIESELSITE Stuff: Super Chip 1705 Programmer, AutoMeter Lunar Gauges In Under The Cubby Hole Mount, AC Control Valve, AIH Plug, Coolant filter, Wicked Wheel, BilletTstat Housing, 203 degree Tstat & HX cross over hose..
I've got an electronic one that uses the EBPV it works great, and with the manual trans it's even more effective. Of course the more expensive one will be more effective but IMO for the money the EBPV valve works great!
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1999 F350 PSD S/C 6spd Dually 150,000 and counting
AIS, 4" straight pipe,
Boost and Pyro guages,
Exhaust brake, IC foil delete,
DP tunes, Stock, 20T, 80E, 120R
4.10 LS rear axle, F550 rear suspension,
B&W turnover gooseneck hitch
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CalfRopin_N_PwrStrokn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much did you spend on the SP Unit and where did you get it if you don't mind me asking?</div></div>
You buy it direct from http://www.spdiesel.com - last I heard. There are two versions. The one for stick shifters is about $200. The one for automatic trannies includes a torque converter controller and costs about $400.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...and are all the electric units the same? </div></div>
No, there are differences in brands. The other major brand of "electronic" exhaust brake is the BD BrakeLoc. It's different, but I don't understand the differences. BD has one for a stick shifter for $205. You can order direct from BD or maybe save a coupla bucks by ordering it from a BD dealer. http://www.bd-power.com/ford/product...akeLoc&tt=ford
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My Sierra Blanca is a '99.5 PSD CrewCab hot-rod Towing Machine! BTS tranny; TurboRamAir intake and 4" stainless turbo-back exhaust; DP-Tuner tunes flashed into an Edge Evolution tuner; ISSPRO EV gauges and TTM; AIC; SP-Diesel exhaust brake and torque converter controller. I special-ordered it new and plan to drive it until it quits.
i had the bd unit on my 99.5 7.3 automatic; it worked great for me, even slowed my 8k travel tralier on the downhills into california and the long eisenhouer tunnel from colorado to utah. the person who bought it still has it and has had zero problems with it to this day. he has 217k miles on it.
johnm
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Sorry, it takes me so long to respond. I have difficulty typing and seeing small type. I can read better if it is in caps, so I'm not shouting, just trying to see what I type.
2004 VW Golf TDI - Automatic, 100 HP Diesel gets 42 MPG around town. XM Satellite Radio
2001 Monaco Knight - 265 HP Cummins gets 12.5 MPG towing the TDI
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