What is the main diff between my 99 F250 srw and a F350 srw. I have a set of leaf springs off a 2000 F350 and was wondering, if installed, would I be able to achieve the same payload capacity as a F350
Technically, yes. Legally, no. You are limited by the door sticker and what it says for a GVWR.
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From what I understand, a SRW 350 is a SRW 250 rated as a SRW 350.
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I have a set of leaf springs off a 2000 F350 and was wondering, if installed, would I be able to achieve the same payload capacity as a F350
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Look at the spring code on the Federal Certification Label on the lower doorpost behind the driver's door. If the second letter is an "A", then your rear spring pack is rated at 6,084 pounds @ground. Code "B" rear springs on an F-350 SRW (and on some F-250s) are rated at 6,830 pounds @ground. So they are a little stiffer.
Your best bet to beef up the rear end of your F-250 is to install Firestone RideRite air bags. Then any time you have a load in the tail or a heavy trailer tied on, pump up the air bags until the headlights no longer point at the stars. http://www.fsip.com/riderite/
The F-350 SRW spring pack will fit. But so will the rear spring pack from the F-350 DRW. If you're going to beef up the rear springs, why stop at 6,830 pounds capacity? Go all the way to the 8,250 pounds @ground from the DRW.
But no amount of mods will change the GVWR of your pickup. Next time, buy enough truck for your needs. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Why waste your time. Even with the spring up grade, you'll still exceed the GVWR. If GVWR doesn't matter to you, just exceed it with your current springs. Even with new springs, you'll hit the limit of your tires before you hit the limit of the springs unless you swap the tires out also.
Unless you're commerical and having to cross scales, don't worry about weights and when you need to haul something, load it and go. For short hauls, your truck will never notice it.
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Technically, yes. Legally, no. You are limited by the door sticker and what it says for a GVWR.
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Legally speaking, there is nothing that says the gwvr is legally binding to anything. The sticking point according to the vehicle code is the ratings of your tires. You cannot legally exceed this. Gvwr and Gcwr are simply mfg guidelines.
There is a great thread right now over at RV.net, in the fiver section called "ramnifications of towing overweight". The first six or seven pages are great info, then it kind of goes downhill.
On edit, I just went over to RV.net and could not find the thread?? Maybe it got deleted while I was out of town. The moderator did say if it went south it would be deleted without warning. I checked in 8 or so pages looking....
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The other thing to remember is if you change your tire size from what is on the sticker.... Your insurance won't cover you & your truck will be illegal. If you get caught at a scale or pulled over you will probably go to jail.
What Ford put on that label is *LAW* and you can't change or go over ANY of it.
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The other thing to remember is if you change your tire size from what is on the sticker.... Your insurance won't cover you & your truck will be illegal. If you get caught at a scale or pulled over you will probably go to jail.
What Ford put on that label is *LAW* and you can't change or go over ANY of it.
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The other thing to remember is if you change your tire size from what is on the sticker.... Your insurance won't cover you & your truck will be illegal. If you get caught at a scale or pulled over you will probably go to jail.
What Ford put on that label is *LAW* and you can't change or go over ANY of it.
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I've got to agree! It may come to that some day (I'm hearing some European countries are regulating what you can change, or require you to get changes OK'd before you can drive the car on public roads.) but we're not there yet. The whole aftermarket industry would dry up and blow away if it were true.
If you get away from the "Tastes Great" Vs "Less Filling" part of the discussion from what I can tell, reading this forum over the last couple of years, there is no difference except Axles, springs, door plaques, and badging. The frames are the same.
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The other thing to remember is if you change your tire size from what is on the sticker.... Your insurance won't cover you & your truck will be illegal. If you get caught at a scale or pulled over you will probably go to jail.
What Ford put on that label is *LAW* and you can't change or go over ANY of it.
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WOW remind me not to go through his neck of the woods!!! If this was so the tire shops WOULD be just as responsible for installing the incorrect tires.
Wayne
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I think it's hilarious how so many people think the GVWR on the sticker is law. Those are manufacturer recomendations ONLY. So long as your running under 26001 Lbs, it doesn't matter(legally speaking). The highway patrol isn't going to weigh private vehicles because there isn't any money in that and it would be a big waist of time. Commercial vehicle's is where the money is at.
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Poor guy. All he wanted to know was could he put on F350 springs. Sure ya can! But being 2000 model springs, they may be a little weak. A spring shop man told me that for every year installed springs lose 5% of their effectiveness. If you're running E tires and put those on, up to 7K lbs on the rear axle. At least that is what my SRW F350 is rated for, and I have crossed the scales with some heavy loads and fuel at 6850. Mind you, I do have rear air bags too just to firm things up a bit!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Leader</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Technically, yes. Legally, no. You are limited by the door sticker and what it says for a GVWR. </div></div>
Makes as much sence as that statement.
If one thing on the sticker is *LAW* then it ALL is. </div></div>\
Nothing on the sticker is law. If you're not a commercial vehicle then there are no laws stating what you can and can't do. Even if you are commercial you aren't bound by what's on the ticker, you're bound by what the commercial laws are.
Many factory rear axle ratings are the capacity of the tires, not the ratings of the springs or the rating of the axle assembly itself. In most cases you can safely put on higher rated tires.
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