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Old 10-28-2009, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford Chevy or Dodge for 3 car hauling

I've read lots of forums comparing Fords Chevys and Dodges, but still can't make my mind what would be better for car hauling business. Three average cars plus truck and trailer shouldn't be more than 32k(stay safe with app plates at 32k). I am looking @ f-350 with towboss package, f-550 and several Chevy Silverado 3500. Any ideas what would make more sense? F-350s and Chevy 3500 would give great mpg, but F-550 with a 4.88 rear ratio would handle the weight better.
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B.T.W What would be the difference in MPG between F-350 loaded and F-550?
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Skip the 1-tons. You would need an F450 at the bare minimum, both due to combined weight and pin weight on the rear axle. That rules out Chevy, and would from Dodge would require a 4500 cab/chassis. If the trailer alone will be 32k, then F550 or even better would a Medium Duty class 6 truck.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No the trailer GVWR will not be more than 20k, and GCWR @32k. How about fuel economy on F350 compared to F550?
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Towing fuel economy should be about the same. Solo, the F550 seems to get about 11-12 mpg hwy, while the F350 can do much better.
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PS - if you can swing it, try to find a cab/chassis with a long enough frame to fit a small sleeper cab on it. DOT is cracking down on in-cab beds it sounds.
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In the long run, you'd be better off with an International or some other class 6 truck. Better brakes and stronger drivetrain componets than the smaller trucks...
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I do realize that and it is much cheaper, but the pickup can go places where the BIGone wouldn't. Any thoughts on 06GMC Sierra Duramax/Alisson ?
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I do realize that and it is much cheaper, but the pickup can go places where the BIGone wouldn't. Any thoughts on 06GMC Sierra Duramax/Alisson ?
Not enough rear axle capacity or GCWR.

No reason a properly maintained F450/550 won't last. (to ensure long life on the 6.0 PSD that means updated EGR cooler, coolant filter, and head bolts).
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I do realize that and it is much cheaper, but the pickup can go places where the BIGone wouldn't. Any thoughts on 06GMC Sierra Duramax/Alisson ?
If you mean turning radius, wrong. Business class trucks are available with increased kingpin turning, will beat a pickup anyday in turning with a trailer.

I pull 16,000 to 18,000 pounds with a 11,000 pound F450. I am shopping around for a class 6 truck, maybe a Peterbilt or Freightliner. This should tell you something about using F350's or F450's for towing.

And yes, DOT is revising their thinking about pickups hauling for hire, too many guys are jumping scales and not following the rules. Rumor here in the Pacific NW is DOT (Federal Level) is thinking about going down to 10,000 GVW for required DOT registration, numbers on the truck, and stopping at all scales. This means full CDL and medical required! This will get all the F350's and 3500's.
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This F450 will be replaced with a heavier truck, maybe a Freightliner or a Peterbilt around 25,000 GVW. AND with a big manual transmission.
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As far as fuel mileage with the 4.88 gears goes. It isn't good I get 9 mpg towing a 48' enclosed car trailer 33,000 combined weight.
But the rig stops without a problem. Tows the trailer like it's not even there.
You just can't go fast with it but I wouldn't want to anyway.
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If you mean turning radius, wrong. Business class trucks are available with increased kingpin turning, will beat a pickup anyday in turning with a trailer.

I pull 16,000 to 18,000 pounds with a 11,000 pound F450. I am shopping around for a class 6 truck, maybe a Peterbilt or Freightliner. This should tell you something about using F350's or F450's for towing.

And yes, DOT is revising their thinking about pickups hauling for hire, too many guys are jumping scales and not following the rules. Rumor here in the Pacific NW is DOT (Federal Level) is thinking about going down to 10,000 GVW for required DOT registration, numbers on the truck, and stopping at all scales. This means full CDL and medical required! This will get all the F350's and 3500's.
I have nothing else to say. FIW the Sport Chassis trucks are worth every penny.
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Hey dorlia2, HERE is some good info regarding choices of trucks for towing. It may be more than you're looking for, but good info regardless of your tow vehicle choice. It's RV focused, but towing is towing. Have fun choosing.
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And yes, DOT is revising their thinking about pickups hauling for hire, too many guys are jumping scales and not following the rules. Rumor here in the Pacific NW is DOT (Federal Level) is thinking about going down to 10,000 GVW for required DOT registration, numbers on the truck, and stopping at all scales. This means full CDL and medical required! This will get all the F350's and 3500's.
Doesn't WA already require this?
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