Hey guys,
I'm building a gooseneck 2 car hauler, wedge type.
Pretty simple build, but I've been noticing almost all gooseneck trailers have a sloping nose right at the gooseneck coupler.
Why?
I"m going to go ahead and build my trailer with one anyway.
I'm thinking, if the factory built trailers have it, it must be there for a reason.
I'm just wondering what was the purpose.
I had the VERY same curiosity when I built my 30' flatbed/tiltbed combo. And basically had the same thoughts as you. I took my angle finder to a trailer sales lot and measured the angle and used that. It does give more clearance over the tailgate/bed rails with a shorter coupler.
Later, I put some math on the matter, the ole trigger-nometry stuff, and it does come out stronger. That bend lowers some of the lateral stress on the bars and puts it more straight down on the coupler. I can't draw here or I could show you easier than tell you. I also made my baces under the bend longer than what they used, just in case my welds/design wasn't as good as the certified peeps.
2006 F350 CC LWB Dually XLT Oxford white manual 4x4 6.0 PSD 6 speed. 4.10 LS front and rear, Built May05. 4" turbo back, 100gal aux fuel tank. A real pig from a stop, but give me 10' and she'll lite'em up.
Hey guys,
I'm building a gooseneck 2 car hauler, wedge type.
Pretty simple build, but I've been noticing almost all gooseneck trailers have a sloping nose right at the gooseneck coupler.
Why?
I"m going to go ahead and build my trailer with one anyway.
I'm thinking, if the factory built trailers have it, it must be there for a reason.
I'm just wondering what was the purpose.
I would think increased clearance is one reason it is done. I like how those necks look as compared to just a straight neck.
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1996 F250 4x4 ext. cab, long bed 5 spd. 3.55ls, Tymar Intake, Tymar 4" downpipe and 4" exhaust. AIC, B&W turnoverball, EBPV brake, tranny temp gauge, boost gauge, and egt gauge. 235k miles and thousands of $$$$ in maintenance and repairs.
I just built a gooseneck adapter for an 18 + 2 PJ car hauler. I went with the 30° down turn. 15° on each side, 45° bevel all the way around for joint prep.
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Why Chyrel? To quote the late great Johnny Cash!
"My name is Sue! How do you do! Now you gonna die!"
2007 Dodge 3500, 4X4 Quad cab SLT, with 6.7L Cummins / 6-speed Aisin, 4:10 gears, and 9 1/2-foot Aluma flatbed.
Long gone
2004 F-550, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, 4:88 LS axle, Flatbed dump with a 10-ton Scott hoist. Autometer Pyro/trans/boost on pillar. Turbo lifesaver.
Yea thats some good craftmanship I myself am looking at turning a 19+2 tri axle into a 30+ ft gooseneck. I have a gooseneck hitch that was given to me, it was cut from a cattle trailer, its im told its the whole setup but I havent seen it yet. I will try to use it but I may have to make one simmilar to yours. Do you have your design layed out on a blueprint of some sort? I am interested in duplicating your design if you dont mind.
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2001 F250 4x4 long bed extra cab 6 speed hand shaker . DIY Tymar, 4" turbo back straight pipe w/ 5" stainless tip, DP tuner F5 w/ stock, high idle 1200 rpms, 60hp tow, 80hp econo and 120hp performance. Auto meter Boost and EGT gauges on an A pillar pod. 203* thermostate. CCV mod run to the back between fuel tank and skid plate. 2.5" leveling kit and running 315/75/16 Hankook MT. Cobra CB with dual 3' whips. 9000 miles + on WMO and ZERO problems.
Sitting in the garage but not installed yet.
Banks wheel, HPOP line cross over, 92 gal auxilary tank.
That turned out good and looks great! That's about the same configuration as my factory PJ.
Thanks! Here are a couple more pictures of it complete. I used some old 1 1/8-inch HDO form ply for the bulkhead. The toolbox comes off and an 8,000-pound winch mounts in it’s place.
Maybe I shouldn’t tell you this, hope you don’t mind. I saved some of your pictures of your gooseneck, and referred back to them when designing mine.
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Originally Posted by gamudslinger88
Do you have your design layed out on a blueprint of some sort? I am interested in duplicating your design if you dont mind.
Hope you can read this. Seem to loose a lot when converting an Auto-Cad drawing to a Jpeg using TurboCad. When you build yours you will have to match the dots on your trailer, so the majority of these dimensions won’t mean anything to you. Now a days I only use Auto-Cad to figure out angles, got tired of drawing all over my shop floor. Learning Auto-Cad was easier than learning math, so I let Auto-Cad do the math.
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Why Chyrel? To quote the late great Johnny Cash!
"My name is Sue! How do you do! Now you gonna die!"
2007 Dodge 3500, 4X4 Quad cab SLT, with 6.7L Cummins / 6-speed Aisin, 4:10 gears, and 9 1/2-foot Aluma flatbed.
Long gone
2004 F-550, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, 4:88 LS axle, Flatbed dump with a 10-ton Scott hoist. Autometer Pyro/trans/boost on pillar. Turbo lifesaver.
Looks awsome! You must be a fabricator by trade? The horse cutouts are a nice touch! I see what looks to be a press break in the background, sounds like you have it set up nice.
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2001 F250 4x4 long bed extra cab 6 speed hand shaker . DIY Tymar, 4" turbo back straight pipe w/ 5" stainless tip, DP tuner F5 w/ stock, high idle 1200 rpms, 60hp tow, 80hp econo and 120hp performance. Auto meter Boost and EGT gauges on an A pillar pod. 203* thermostate. CCV mod run to the back between fuel tank and skid plate. 2.5" leveling kit and running 315/75/16 Hankook MT. Cobra CB with dual 3' whips. 9000 miles + on WMO and ZERO problems.
Sitting in the garage but not installed yet.
Banks wheel, HPOP line cross over, 92 gal auxilary tank.
I’ve been accused of it a few times.
I think I’d rather be called a fabricator than a welder. I can’t tell you how many journeymen certified welders I’ve fired in my career because they can’t read blue prints, do basic layout. All they know how to do is burn rod, or worse yet just pull a trigger! Another one that sets me back how can a person work with iron all their life and not know how to sharpen a drill bit?
Press break, where? I think your looking at tractor implements. The last two pictures I posted are in my equipment shed; my shop is a whole lot bigger!
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Why Chyrel? To quote the late great Johnny Cash!
"My name is Sue! How do you do! Now you gonna die!"
2007 Dodge 3500, 4X4 Quad cab SLT, with 6.7L Cummins / 6-speed Aisin, 4:10 gears, and 9 1/2-foot Aluma flatbed.
Long gone
2004 F-550, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, 4:88 LS axle, Flatbed dump with a 10-ton Scott hoist. Autometer Pyro/trans/boost on pillar. Turbo lifesaver.
I have been fabricating for a little over 9 years now (and welding), thats a long time for me because I am 26 years old so its pretty much the only thing I know, well I did a stint as a directv installer for a year but still fabricated on weekends. My uncle owns a sheetmetal shop in town so thats where I started.
I thought that the equipment in the background was a break, work has one that looks kinda like that from the back. I still cant make out what it is.
I am a Q.A. inspector now so I deal with alot of welders and the think that get me is "it doesnt have to look good to be a stong weld." I hate that comment, an excuse for piss poor craftsmanship, or the "I dont have to weld prep it will burn in." Reading blueprints was the first thing my uncle taught me so I dont see how a person who burned rod there whole life cant read them. Ohh well, call yourself what you will but the trailer looks good to me
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2001 F250 4x4 long bed extra cab 6 speed hand shaker . DIY Tymar, 4" turbo back straight pipe w/ 5" stainless tip, DP tuner F5 w/ stock, high idle 1200 rpms, 60hp tow, 80hp econo and 120hp performance. Auto meter Boost and EGT gauges on an A pillar pod. 203* thermostate. CCV mod run to the back between fuel tank and skid plate. 2.5" leveling kit and running 315/75/16 Hankook MT. Cobra CB with dual 3' whips. 9000 miles + on WMO and ZERO problems.
Sitting in the garage but not installed yet.
Banks wheel, HPOP line cross over, 92 gal auxilary tank.
I was a professional welder at 17 myself, and that was after 2-years of welding school.
I’ve had this augment on numerous welding forums. I believe a welder is just another tool of the trade, just like a forklift driver, with maybe the exception of pipeline welders. On the whole pipeline welders do nothing but burn rod, (extremely well I might add). Majority of all other crafts the welders are required to know their trade. Being a welder is just another feather in their cap. Just like a carpenter who can do trim work, concrete formwork, build trusses, and build stairs, so on and on.
Just my opinion!
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Why Chyrel? To quote the late great Johnny Cash!
"My name is Sue! How do you do! Now you gonna die!"
2007 Dodge 3500, 4X4 Quad cab SLT, with 6.7L Cummins / 6-speed Aisin, 4:10 gears, and 9 1/2-foot Aluma flatbed.
Long gone
2004 F-550, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, 4:88 LS axle, Flatbed dump with a 10-ton Scott hoist. Autometer Pyro/trans/boost on pillar. Turbo lifesaver.
Back to the turned down portion,,,I also found it to be a very handy spot to weld a spindle. I put a piece of angle across the beams, welded a spindle to it, and mounted my spare tire/wheel/hub and bearings on it.
2006 F350 CC LWB Dually XLT Oxford white manual 4x4 6.0 PSD 6 speed. 4.10 LS front and rear, Built May05. 4" turbo back, 100gal aux fuel tank. A real pig from a stop, but give me 10' and she'll lite'em up.
My car hauler is almost done. I'll post some pics when I'm finished.
Thanks for the replies. I've found out that the angled nose is stronger than a 90 degree tongue.
I myself am looking at turning a 19+2 tri axle into a 30+ ft gooseneck. I have a gooseneck hitch that was given to me, it was cut from a cattle trailer, its im told its the whole setup but I havent seen it yet. I will try to use it but I may have to make one simmilar to yours. Do you have your design layed out on a blueprint of some sort? I am interested in duplicating your design if you dont mind.
Another one that sets me back how can a person work with iron all their life and not know how to sharpen a drill bit? 
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