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Old 04-26-2005, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help me pick a 250

I'm looking for a little advice from every one to help me make up my mind.

I'm looking at buying a F250 either a V-10 or a 7.3 PSD. I drive a company car all week, and my truck will be driven on the weekends and on camping trips pulling a 7000lb TT through the hills of Colorado we will use the TT around 20 day a year.

Right now I'm looking at used truck and for the same amount of money I can buy a 2000/2001 V-10 with about 60,000 miles or I can pick up a 99/2000 PSD with around 100K.

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Old 04-26-2005, 10:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Help me pick a 250

That V10 will act like it has asthma in the mountains plus you'll get at least a whole glorious 8 mpg with it. With a few mods the diesel will pull like a rapped ape up any hill and leave the gasser in the dust. You may expect a little better fuel mileage with the diesel (10 - 12) maybe even more since its a fairly small trailer.

The diesel thing is higly addictive, I have owned my last gas pickup truck.
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Re: Help me pick a 250

First off welcome to the site. Now as far as witch truck to get I am a little parcial. The truck below is my first diesel but will not be the last. I will never go back to a gasser again as far as a truck that will be towing is concerned. Empty I can run up I-70 from Vail to Denver at 70 mph with the cruse on and the same from Denver back. Towing wise you will be amaized at what one of these truck will do and like was said you will get some diecent fuel milage with it. My worst mpg was 12 and that was with a 1500lb cabover camper on with a 16' trailer loaded down with playtoys. Go diesel... you won't regret it.

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diesel. is there any thing else. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Welcome to the site! We're glad you're here.
If you are even remotely considering the V-10 gasser be sure to check the blue book value very carefully. A gas powered heavy duty truck of any make is hard to sell. They don't hold their value like a diesel. I'm sure that many who are trying to sell a gasser wind up taking less than blue book for it unless they trade it in on a new truck at a dealership; then who knows what they are really getting for it.
I pulled my 24' travel trailer with a Chevy Tahoe (5.7 liter gas) and I was lucky to get 9 MPG. The truck in my sig pulls the same trailer MUCH better ang gets 14 MPG (towing) and it will get better once it's broken in some more. Driving solo the truck is getting fron 16 - 18 MPG. In this part of Texas diesel is 15 to 20 cents more than unleaded regular, but I figure I'm about breaking even on my fuel bill. When I retire and travel more the difference will be even bigger. The whole purpose of me buying this truck is to eventually tow a large 5th wheel. 'Not a good idea with a gasser so if you ever want to upgrade trailers, get the diesel.
One more thing - all things being equal and if both trucks are nice and clean I would worry less about a diesel with 100,000 miles than I would about a V-10 gasser with 60,000 miles. That Powerstroke has only seen about 25% of its useful life if it's been well cared for.
Once you've owned a diesel you will see what we mean and you'll never go back to gas.
Once again, welcome to the site and let us know how your decision comes out.
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Re: Help me pick a 250

Go with the diesel, I second what everyone said above. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Well since you came to TheDieselStop, the little voice in your head MUST be saying Diesel....

Listen to the voice! Get the Diesel [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
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I've owned both gas and diesel pickups. Never again will I buy a gas engine. The diesel will work harder and get better fuel economy at the same time.
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I own a V10 250 and love it. BUT, I am at low altitude so my power curve is not effected the way it will be at high altitude. Go with the PSD, as it is a great engine that will keep you smiling on the high altitude passes you have out there. By the way, the opinions about resale and longevity are just that, opinions. A current, well maintained gas engine will usually clock well over 200k and the V10s in my area don't stay for sale long. Just my .02

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Welcome to the site! We're glad you're here.
If you are even remotely considering the V-10 gasser be sure to check the blue book value very carefully. A gas powered heavy duty truck of any make is hard to sell. They don't hold their value like a diesel. I'm sure that many who are trying to sell a gasser wind up taking less than blue book for it unless they trade it in on a new truck at a dealership; then who knows what they are really getting for it.


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You can say that again.....I've been trying to sell my 460 powered F-250 for 3 months now....I've had several bites, but then something comes up like "oh I thought the 460 was a diesel".

I would like a diesel but quite frankly I'm scared of them because the parts are so much more expensive if something went bad. If something died on a diesel with me it'd be sitting until I could get the funds together to get it right. I have enough to get a new truck--gas or diesel, but that's it....I don't have much excess $$$$ if the 6-liter I want gets confused and then Ford starts getting a little shy with the warranty.

That's why I'm keeping the V-10 in consideration. From everyone I've talked to with one they get from 10-14mpg and run like a scalded dog.
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No flame intended because all of the responses provide valid reasons to go diesel.

However, I don't think a diesel pickup forum is the best place to get objective information on the pros and cons of a powerstroke versus a V-10.

I'd try the towing forums on one of the RV sites such as rv.net and there you'll get responses from owners of both the gasser and the diesel.
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I own both also, but you will not drive enough miles to justify a diesel. You will probably keep it for a while, so resale value is less important. Also, the diesel is so heavy that most 3/4 ton pickup's have very little payload, or tongue weight capacity. I love my diesel, but you should get the gas engine.
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Would you like to do your thing as a Patriotic American? Then get the diesel, and run biodiesel in it (as much as you can afford). You'll have fun knowing you are helping protect the American economy, burning a cleaner fuel, and helping to free us from foreign oil.

Now, as to the V-10 vs PSD. I had a 98 V10 F-250 SD XLT SC short bed. I got 12 mpg at best. The truck in my sig get 19 unloaded, pulls my 6.5k# 26' Prowler TT like its not there (I can pass semis at 80, if I'm stupid enough [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) and at 62-65 I get 14 mpg. We've got some good 6% grades around here &amp; I have no problem maintaining 65 up 'em).
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The diesel has more power, is faster, better mileage, and will last longer between rebuilds.

The only benefit of the gasser is that it is cheaper in a new truck. Some contractors that trade their trucks every few years will go with the gassers because they don't run them long enough to wear them out, and short term the extra fuel expense is made up for by th elower purchase price..
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However, I don't think a diesel pickup forum is the best place to get objective information on the pros and cons of a powerstroke versus a V-10.

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Most of us diesel owners became such BECAUSE we have towed, hauled, and otherwise been the previous proud owners of gasser's. That is precisely why we have diesels and would never look back. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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