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Old 02-21-2007, 06:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

i just bought a 40' fifth wheel and it has a 4kw onan genset in the front, it is missing some parts.. any way i noticed lots on you seem to be buying the small generators and running them with rvs, how much does that type of setup run and where is a good place to buy them?
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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

Mine was about $1600.00 Yamaha 3000SB . I got it from CA. off E-Bay.

It was cheaper with shipping than any of the local dealers.

Try a Honda or Yamaha motorcycle dealer if you want to stay local.

Mine uses less gas that the onboard genset and very quiet .
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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

I have a Honda 2000. It is too small to run an air conditioner but can be put in tandem with another 2000 then it would be big enough.

The reason I bought the smaller unit is the wife has to be able to move it. We horse show with another person with a Honda so we will be able to put them in tandem.

Bought mine at the local Honda outdoor power equipment dealer for $1,000.

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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

I got the 2 Honda EU2000i inverter type generators. I use one in the winter works everything and it will run all night on a full tank. 2 will run the AC. Wise Sales about $900 each + the hookup kit. They work great! They are quiet and about 46 lbs each.
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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

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... lots on you seem to be buying the small generators and running them with rvs, how much does that type of setup run and where is a good place to buy them?

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A good place to buy them is Mayberrys. Honda won't allow them to post selling prices anymore, because they were too low. So you have to call to get the current price, but it's lower than most other places.

How much it costs depends on how much juice you need.

If you promise to never have on anything more than one AC unit and maybe a couple of lights and a TV or radio, then you can get by with two EU2000i tied together. That's up to 3,200 watts continuous use. Not enough to run several high-draw appliances while the AC purrs. The two EU2000i and the genuine Honda connector harness will cost you a little over $2,000 (last time I checked).

But if you want the coffee maker to brew while the hair dryer dries and the microwave does its thing on a warm summer morning with the AC keeping you cool, then you won't be happy with only 3,200 watts. So in that case you move up to two EU3000i tied together. Now you'll have 5,600 watts continuous available, so there's not much you can't use at the same time. Cost is about $4,000 - but cheaper than replacing your Onan with another Onan. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

But if your RV has two ACs, and you want to run both at the same time, then even two 3000i won't be enough. Instead you need the EU65000i. Big fellow, but still an inverter model so it's really quite compared to normal generators. Just don't expect the little wife to load it into the basement. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

When not using the AC, then one EU2000i will run most of the trailer, but you'll still have to worry about not turning on the microwave until after the coffee pot stops drawing juice.

And one EU3000i will definitely run everything, including the microwave and coffee pot at the same time, as long as you don't turn on the AC. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

My current setup is one normal Honda 5000 to use when AC is needed, and one EU2000i to use when the AC is not needed. The big Honda is a lot quieter than most 5,000-watt generators, but a lot louder than the little EU2000i.

Based on my Honda 5000 being barely big enough (4,500 watts continuous) to run things with the AC pumping hard while the reefer heatstip somehow makes ice and the inverter is charging the RV battery, I doubt I'd be happy with only 3,200 watts. So if I someday upgrade my rig, I'll probably invest in two EU3000i tied together.

http://mayberrys.com/honda/generator...s/eu3000is.htm
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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

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... lots on you seem to be buying the small generators and running them with rvs, how much does that type of setup run and where is a good place to buy them?

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A good place to buy them is Mayberrys. Honda won't allow them to post selling prices anymore, because they were too low. So you have to call to get the current price, but it's lower than most other places.

How much it costs depends on how much juice you need.

If you promise to never have on anything more than one AC unit and maybe a couple of lights and a TV or radio, then you can get by with two EU2000i tied together. That's up to 3,200 watts continuous use. Not enough to run several high-draw appliances while the AC purrs. The two EU2000i and the genuine Honda connector harness will cost you a little over $2,000 (last time I checked).

But if you want the coffee maker to brew while the hair dryer dries and the microwave does its thing on a warm summer morning with the AC keeping you cool, then you won't be happy with only 3,200 watts. So in that case you move up to two EU3000i tied together. Now you'll have 5,600 watts continuous available, so there's not much you can't use at the same time. Cost is about $4,000 - but cheaper than replacing your Onan with another Onan. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

But if your RV has two ACs, and you want to run both at the same time, then even two 3000i won't be enough. Instead you need the EU65000i. Big fellow, but still an inverter model so it's really quite compared to normal generators. Just don't expect the little wife to load it into the basement. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

When not using the AC, then one EU2000i will run most of the trailer, but you'll still have to worry about not turning on the microwave until after the coffee pot stops drawing juice.

And one EU3000i will definitely run everything, including the microwave and coffee pot at the same time, as long as you don't turn on the AC. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

My current setup is one normal Honda 5000 to use when AC is needed, and one EU2000i to use when the AC is not needed. The big Honda is a lot quieter than most 5,000-watt generators, but a lot louder than the little EU2000i.

Based on my Honda 5000 being barely big enough (4,500 watts continuous) to run things with the AC pumping hard while the reefer heatstip somehow makes ice and the inverter is charging the RV battery, I doubt I'd be happy with only 3,200 watts. So if I someday upgrade my rig, I'll probably invest in two EU3000i tied together.

http://mayberrys.com/honda/generator...s/eu3000is.htm

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Thanks that was a great post! that was very informative, i think i will do some more research and see what it would take to get the onan running and if not sell it and get a setup somewhere along these lines
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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

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A good place to buy them is Mayberrys. Honda won't allow them to post selling prices anymore, because they were too low. So you have to call to get the current price, but it's lower than most other places.

How much it costs depends on how much juice you need.

If you promise to never have on anything more than one AC unit and maybe a couple of lights and a TV or radio, then you can get by with two EU2000i tied together. That's up to 3,200 watts continuous use. Not enough to run several high-draw appliances while the AC purrs. The two EU2000i and the genuine Honda connector harness will cost you a little over $2,000 (last time I checked).

But if you want the coffee maker to brew while the hair dryer dries and the microwave does its thing on a warm summer morning with the AC keeping you cool, then you won't be happy with only 3,200 watts. So in that case you move up to two EU3000i tied together. Now you'll have 5,600 watts continuous available, so there's not much you can't use at the same time. Cost is about $4,000 - but cheaper than replacing your Onan with another Onan. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

But if your RV has two ACs, and you want to run both at the same time, then even two 3000i won't be enough. Instead you need the EU65000i. Big fellow, but still an inverter model so it's really quite compared to normal generators. Just don't expect the little wife to load it into the basement. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

When not using the AC, then one EU2000i will run most of the trailer, but you'll still have to worry about not turning on the microwave until after the coffee pot stops drawing juice.

And one EU3000i will definitely run everything, including the microwave and coffee pot at the same time, as long as you don't turn on the AC. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

My current setup is one normal Honda 5000 to use when AC is needed, and one EU2000i to use when the AC is not needed. The big Honda is a lot quieter than most 5,000-watt generators, but a lot louder than the little EU2000i.

Based on my Honda 5000 being barely big enough (4,500 watts continuous) to run things with the AC pumping hard while the reefer heatstip somehow makes ice and the inverter is charging the RV battery, I doubt I'd be happy with only 3,200 watts. So if I someday upgrade my rig, I'll probably invest in two EU3000i tied together.

http://mayberrys.com/honda/generator...s/eu3000is.htm

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Just remember that two honda 3000s will weigh in at 300lbs!! A lot to heft around, not to mention the added weight to either the TV or the RV.

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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

Another vote for the Honda EU2000i. It has a handy lifting handle and only weighs something like 54 pounds and like posted, real quiet. It fits in my bed toolbox and at times if the wind is blowing the right direction I've taken it out and just fired it up in the bed of the truck and run an extension cord to the trailer. Being small and portable, to be on the safe side on a zero degree morning at a truck stop, I let it run in front of the truck so I could plug in the block heater while eating breakfast, etc.

But the best part of all that nobody's mentioned, the Honda EU's (and Yamaha too, I think) have variable load governors. That means with a real light electrical load they just run a bit above or at idle whereas the old ones had to run at a constant high RPM no matter what the load was.

On Edit: I just saw the Honda 2000 for $860 by one of Trailer Life's regular advertisers and most offer free shipping.
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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

I've been doing the generator two-step for the last few months, getting my mind and rig right for a Oregon/Washington/Canada/Alaska trip. After talking with lots of contractors, I've decided to buy a 5250 watt (continuous rating) genset from Sam's Club. The engine is a Subaru Robin OHV model. The genset is $618. It is too heavy to move around by hand, so I'll have to have it lifted onto my truck bed and leave it there while we travel.

The Subaru Robin engines have a very good reputation. Plus, it comes with a Forest service muffler. And the muffler has screw points for attached a second silencer chamber to quiet it down some more. I know it's louder than the small Honda sets, but I need to run two RV's.

Honda makes good equipment and they have a good reputation. On the other hand, you can buy a a throw-away genset at Wal-Mart of 1000W size for $179. I don't know how many Wal-Mart specials you would go through before the Honda wore out. But Hondas just seem too pricey to me.

Serious genset folks, when money is no great object, frequently prefer the Kubota LowBoy diesel 1800 RPM set. Several contractors I know have had them running just about every day for 10 years or so.

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Re: how much do the small honda or yamaha genset cost and which one?

Costco has a Generator that has the OHV Honda Motor that runs 7,000 with 12,000 max. $899. It includes the wheel kit as well.

You cant go wrong with the Honda EU 2000 its a great unit for the size
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Costco has a Generator that has the OHV Honda Motor that runs 7,000 with 12,000 max. $899. It includes the wheel kit as well.

<font color="red"> You can not compair a off brand gen set with a honda motor to a Honda EU series gen set, the EU's are inverter gen sets, produce DC power and use an inverter to make AC.
The EU2000 will cost approx $900 (I paid $860 a couple years ago)

The off brand will be VERY loud and heavy. </font>

You cant go wrong with the Honda EU 2000 its a great unit for the size

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A friend of mine purchased a 4000watt generator/3250 continuous recently from Kragen. I was a bit sceptical at first. But this thing is quiet (I think around 65db), can be picked up by one person, has the load/rpm control thing, uses less fuel than I expected, and it has a 110volt 30amp dedicated RV plug on it. The best part is that it only costs $329 and I have seen it on sale for $299. I also think you can order it online everyday for $299 and have it shipped to your local store for free.
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Kragen also offers these generators in I think a 2000 watt model if you need less and a 5000watt if you need a little more, for like $200 and $400 but I dont think either of these have the 30amp RV plug.
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What local store can you have it shipped to?
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The Kragen is the same as the Champion C46540 genset I bought from PartsAmerica online for $299 about a month ago. I think shipping was around $40 and there was no sales tax so the total cost was less than $350 delivered to my door.

It is surprisingly quiet, quieter than my very old Honda 2000 genset. Will it last as long as a Honda? Gee, who cares, I can buy 6 of these for the price of a Honda.

Only real drawback is the weight at around 100 lbs, but I called up the distributor and ordered the wheel kit (as well as the fancy cover).

It has the 30 amp RV plug, perfect for the trailer, but I will also make up a breakout box to give me two 15 amp duplex receptacles.

p.s. This is 4000 watt peak, 3500 continuous.
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