Assuming the trailer (40' gooseneck flat) is loaded correctly as to not overweigh the trucks rear (DRW) axle, what is the maximum weight a 2006 6.0 1 ton can pull safely for say 200 miles?
You might try to search for posts using his name. It might be spelled Smokywren or SmokeyWren...I'm not sure. He has posted numerous times on this. It's like he's a human truck capacity calculator.
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Hello...I just told him...There is nothing to calculate...The specs are available at ford.com! The total will only vary slightly with the weight of the tow vehicle...
but, as I said, I would need to know the exact model/cab and bed size to look up the actual number.
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... what is the maximum weight a 2006 6.0 1 ton can pull safely for say 200 miles?
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Depends on how much the wet and loaded tow vehicle weighs, and whether is has the TowBoss pkg.
Don't even think about using the Ford max trailer weight numbers. They assume your truck has no options and is empty except for one skinny driver.
Instead, weigh the wet and loaded tow vehicle without the trailer but with the hitch installed, full of diesel, and including whatever stuff you'll have in the truck on that trip - driver, tools, jacks, cooler(s), sweetheart, munchkins, pets, whatever. Subtract that weight from the GCWR of the truck and that's Ford's answer to your question.
For example, if your wet and loaded pickup weighs 9,000 pounds, and you don't have the TowBoss option, then the GCWR is 23,500 pounds. Subtract 9,000 and the answer is 14,500 gross trailer weight. Or if you have the TowBoss option, then the GCWR is 26,000 pounds, and the answer is 17,000 pounds.
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I've pulled loaded GN trailers over 30,000# with my SWR, but I wouldn't advise it if you don't know what you're doing (and if you have to ask, you don't know what you're doing)
BTW, when the trailer is loaded you need 15-20% on the (GN)hitch for stability regardless of your RA weight rating. By that I mean don't worry so much about possible overloading the RA, getting the weight distributed correctly on the trailer is more important. Just make sure your tires are up to the task (dually axles can easily handle as much as the combined tire capacities, regardless of the sticker on the door jam)
Flame suit on!
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I've pulled loaded GN trailers over 30,000# with my SWR, but I wouldn't advise it if you don't know what you're doing (and if you have to ask, you don't know what you're doing)
BTW, when the trailer is loaded you need 15-20% on the (GN)hitch for stability regardless of your RA weight rating. By that I mean don't worry so much about possible overloading the RA, getting the weight distributed correctly on the trailer is more important. Just make sure your tires are up to the task (dually axles can easily handle as much as the combined tire capacities, regardless of the sticker on the door jam)
Flame suit on!
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All I can say is guys like you just scare the **** out of me and I'm glad I don't live or have to drive every day in your area or even more scary is to send my wife and kids out there with you. You might think or believe your are safe but [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img]
Larry
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Ford rates the truck for it's MAXIMUM safe trailer tow weight!
These numbers ARE NOT GCWR the are maximum trailer weight (assuming your truck is empty)..
These numbers are your trucks empty weight subtracted from your rated GCWR for your specfic vehicle.
If the truck weighs more loaded it would subtract from that number, but the maximum trailer weight remains the Maximum!!
Yes you can tow more than the max, but is it safe?? Is it legal??
Just use the Ford numbers as a guideline and you will be fine!
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Ford rates the truck for it's MAXIMUM safe trailer tow weight!
These numbers ARE NOT GCWR the are maximum trailer weight (assuming your truck is empty)..
These numbers are your trucks empty weight subtracted from your rated GCWR for your specfic vehicle.
If the truck weighs more loaded it would subtract from that number, but the maximum trailer weight remains the Maximum!!
Yes you can tow more than the max, but is it safe?? Is it legal??
Just use the Ford numbers as a guideline and you will be fine!
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I think I disagree there are tow things here the tow vehicle GCWR and the vehicles GCWR ... neither of those should be exeeded unless you are willing to loose your home and everything else in a lawsuit in a court case.
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There is only one factory GCWR for each model truck, I do not suggest going over it...That is why I printed the above Factory tow rating, which is the GCWR minus the tow vehicles empty weight!
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I've pulled loaded GN trailers over 30,000# with my SWR, but I wouldn't advise it if you don't know what you're doing (and if you have to ask, you don't know what you're doing)
BTW, when the trailer is loaded you need 15-20% on the (GN)hitch for stability regardless of your RA weight rating. By that I mean don't worry so much about possible overloading the RA, getting the weight distributed correctly on the trailer is more important. Just make sure your tires are up to the task (dually axles can easily handle as much as the combined tire capacities, regardless of the sticker on the door jam)
Flame suit on!
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All I can say is guys like you just scare the **** out of me and I'm glad I don't live or have to drive every day in your area or even more scary is to send my wife and kids out there with you. You might think or believe your are safe but [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img]
Larry
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After 20yrs and 1.5 million accident free miles I know how to haul overweight loads safely (many over 200,000# in real trucks) Keep to your camping and leave the work to the professionals.
That's why I said I wouldn't recommend it for someone who doesn't know what they are doing this would include you I guess.
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can anyone tell me the difference between some one towing a 4000lb camper trailer behind a 3500 [insert brand],or a 14000lb backhoe behind the same rig?
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You know how to overload vehicles safely.....LOL!!!!
I think the DOT might have something to say about that!
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Hmmm, DOT supplies the permits so they're well aware of (nearly) everthing I have done.
You guys would have a heart attack if you knew what really goes up and down the hwy, even with permits some states allow too much (KY is a prime example)
Ever seen a covered wagon? (flatbed with a side kit)
Common practice is to load 3-4 loads (coils) at a time (120-160,000# on the trailer) on 6 axle rigs and take off. Illegal? yes. Unsafe? yes. Profitable? very.
I limited myself to 125,000# gross (85,000 on the trailer) with 6 axles (when I was running steel). That was all I could get a permit for (with an undivisible load) and it was enough for me. Illegal? yes. Unsafe? Absolutely not. Profitable? again, very.
I have loaded (and still do) 200,000+ on 11-13 axles (B trains, sleds and doubles) depending on equipment availability, both safely and legally. However in KY they allow that much on half the number of axles.
So before you go off all half ****ed about what you think is unsafe you really need to get an education.
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