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Old 12-27-2008, 01:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Need to carry 2500lb payload - what truck?

I love my 7.3 F250, but I am outgrowing the truck. Not because of it's towing capability, but because of it's payload capacity, or lack thereof. Also looking to go to a crew cab longbox this time around.

I would prefer to stick with SRW, but the deals on duallys are out there.

What are the GVWs of:

2002 F350 SRW
2002 F350 DRW
2005 F250 SRW
2005 F350 SRW
2005 F350 DRW

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 12-27-2008, 07:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What are the GVWs of:
Assuming CrewCab 4x4 longbed diesel 49-state:

2002 F350 SRW = 9,900 GVWR, about 1,500 net payload
2002 F350 DRW = 11,500 GVWR, about 2,500 net payload

2005 F250 SRW = 10,000 GVWR, about 1,200 net payload
2005 F350 SRW = 11,500 GVWR, about 2,500 net payload

2005 F350 DRW = 13,000 GVWR, about 3,500 net payload.

My net payload numbers assume normally loaded with driver, one passenger, toolbox full of tools and jacks, etc., cooler full of cool, diesel tank plumb full, spray-in bedliner, fifth-wheel or gooseneck hitch installed, etc. Only the CAT scale knows for sure, so if you think you have more net payload, then show me the CAT scale ticket when on the road with a full tank of fuel, your normal tools and jacks in the toolbox, and your sweetheart in the truck with you.
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Excellent info, thanks! I'm still not sold on a dually. The truck needs to be GREAT in the snow and I'm not sure dually's are as I have no experience and I don't know anyone with one. I need to be able to 4x4 through 2 feet of snow with the truck fully loaded.
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Everyone I've known through the years that have owned'em say duallys are real bad in the snow. Years ago one guy we deer hunted with for a week+ had a dually and we were in snow the whole time. He cussed it every time he fired it up and tried to stay with the rest of us. First, you've got less pounds per square inch contact patch on the rear axle and second, the rear wheels are running out of (or mostly out of) the front wheel tracks and packed down stuff from the other SWR pickups.
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That seems to be the same feedback I'm getting elsewhere on the net. I will be looking for a 1 ton SRW by the sounds of it.
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If that 2500 lbs will be in the truck all the time then the dual wheels will be fine. I drove a company truck that had duals and it slid everywhere with out any weight in it, but after putting in a 1000 lbs of cement pads you could not stop it in the snow.

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... after putting in a 1000 lbs of cement pads you could not stop it in the snow.

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Do you mean that in the good way or the bad way?
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Do you mean that in the good way or the bad way?
The good way of course. It even helped in the stopping on dry pavemant if you had to lock up the brakes.

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I would say you have not outgrown your truck.

My 96 hauls my slide-in camper. It weights around 3300 lbs. I installed a set of airbags after carrying for a few summers.

$250 for a set of airbags is way cheaper than a new truck.
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If you have decent tires on a dually they will do just fine!!! My truck barely noticed 10inches of snow on the ground. I also had about 500lbs in the bed.
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I would say you have not outgrown your truck.

My 96 hauls my slide-in camper. It weights around 3300 lbs. I installed a set of airbags after carrying for a few summers.

$250 for a set of airbags is way cheaper than a new truck.
Mark,

Legally, I have outgrown it with the load I want to carry. While I agree the truck can carry the weight, I also need a longbox to carry the proposed load as I'm not comfortable having 20k in snowmobiles hang 3 feet off the bed.
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I am actually happier with a trailer behind the truck - I even have been known to hook up the horse trailer empty and head for the mall just for giggles ("hello, my name is Dave and I am a trailer junkie - I am happiest when it has a hinge in the middle" - crowd joins in "HI DAVE").

That said, what about an enclosed trailer? Put a lock on your drawbar, lock the trailer to it, lock the doors and you have secure storage when you are out. Chain the "A" frame to something substantial (100 year old Oak Tree comes to mind) and you have secure, covered storage at home.
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Dave, I have access to an enclosed trailer. The area I frequently haul my sleds to has limited "turn around" room and is infrequently plowed. With two sleds on the truck and a nice set of 35s, a good 4x4 is nearly unstoppable.

It looks like I may take the 6.0L plunge. Help me, I'm scared!
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If you are carrying a ton in the bed of the truck more than 90% of the time I would definitely opt for a dually.
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If you are carrying a ton in the bed of the truck more than 90% of the time I would definitely opt for a dually.
I agree with NickKent.

Although a trailer would be nice, screw that with the bad weather. Snow doesn't bother me but I had a bad experience pulling a trailer in freezing rain a few years back and I won't ever attempt that again.
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