Apparently, I don't have enough truck to pull this trailer according to Ford. I could make up about 200# by unloading the rear end, but I'm still over my GVWR.
Am I right about this or can I pull this trailer without mechanical or legal difficulties?
Any input would be welcome. This is my first 5'er purchase and I have no experience other than research.
See my sig for my rig. I'm over on GVW, but under on max for every axle and also under GCVW.
As long as I stay in flat country, I'm fine. We're in Alaska right now and I've been on some mountains and downgrades where I wish I had a dually (stick with exhaust brake), but my rig handles it okay. I've been through 11,000 passes in Colorado with my rig....just slow down and put it in 2nd gear going down the mountains and keep the speed way low.
My next truck will be a 1-ton with 6 speed and exhaust brake. The 11 mile down grade into Haines, Alaska, convinced me that's what I need out here.
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2001 5.4 Gasser F-250 XLT Crewcab SWB 4X2 3.73 4R100 67K miles headed to 150K (wife's vehicle on the "junk-iron" theory of vehicle safety....most junk iron wins in a crash) stock as the day it was made
Before these: '00 F-250 CC PSD, '97 F-250 CC PSD, '94 Ford F-150, '91 Ford E-250, '81 Ford E-150, '66 Ford F-100 (cars not included)
The GVWR of the trailer is 9,400. Plan on grossing that much. And pin weight is going to be about 17 or 18 percent of loaded weight. Better plan on 18 percent.
9,400 times 18 percent = 1692. Not much higher than the Jayco estimated dry hitch weight of 1,630. Makes me doubt the other Jayco numbers.
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Apparently, I don't have enough truck to pull this trailer according to Ford. I could make up about 200# by unloading the rear end, but I'm still over my GVWR.
Am I right about this or can I pull this trailer without mechanical or legal difficulties?
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Most of our members are convinced that the "real" GVWR of the F-250 PSD is the same as the F-350 SRW. Or about 9,900 pounds. So as long as you don't exceed around 9,900 pounds GVW, you're probably okay - as long as you don't have a wreck.
In my case I've made a several-thousand-mile trip with about 9,620 GVW on the pickup axles. No problems at all.
So if your real GVWR is 9,900 and your wet and loaded truck weighs 7,760, then that leaves 2,100 pounds for max pin weight and other stuff. If your pin weight is 1,700 and your wet and loaded truck grosses 8,000 (and it probably will), that's 9,700 pounds GVW.
Be certain all your tires on the tow vehicle are aired up to the PSI that will support the max weight on each tire per any good load/inflation table. Such as this one.
And be certain the tires on the trailer are aired up to the max PSI on the sidewall of the trailer tires. Then head out with no worry.
And that assumes you're not going to get into a wreck and hurt someone else. If you are involved in an accident, then bend over and kiss ole hiney goodby. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
So when you trade pickups, buy more truck next time. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] Not because your PSD won't safely pull the load. But because of lawyers.
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My father shakes his head every time he reads post like this. Auto dealers are there to sell vehicals , they will tell you any thing to sell you it, trailer places are there to sell trailers, Look at the manuals and read it carefully. It is your life and the lives of those you love just in frount of the trailer. F-250 are great to haul a few pieces of plywood. From the store to your house. Great for saying I have a truck. But for pulling and STOPPING a 4 ton trailer. You are the tip of the battering Ram. The first thing that hits something in frount.Go ahead the wrecker buisness needs more wrecks to work they make lots of money of stupidity of others. Have fun RVing.
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F-250 are great to haul a few pieces of plywood. From the store to your house. Great for saying I have a truck.
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Perhaps you should put a smiley face in your post so people would know you're only kidding here [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] You are kidding right? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
Gomer pile... o sorry
Why do you think a 250 can only be used as a yuppy truck. I drive a 350 because i haul ALOT very often. My lil brother has a 250 because he does not haul as much as me. His truck is a ex cab long box (2002) I have pulled about 9k on a tag trailer and at least 14500 on his GN, the truck did not pull like mine does, but anyone with a breakbox and a little common sense can pull over weight with out being a danger to themselves and other.
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Sorry not 9K on a Tag but 9000, but nevertheless it is more than some plywood.
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Please ignore some of the idiotic comments that have been written to you. Lot of morons around. You will be fine towing the trailer. If you haven't lately, I would flush the transmission, rear differential. Maybe add airbags or Timbrens, buy a good trailer brake controller and adjust it properly. Make sure your tires(load range E) are inflated to the max, 80psi for mine same for trailer. Use commonsense, practice in an empty parking lot backing and turning. Those FRS radios are great for communication with the wife/husband. Take is easy, and you will have a great time. I pull a rather heavy(11,000lb) 30 foot fifth wheel, truck accelerates and stops just fine, remember the trailer brakes stop the trailer. Pulled up the big hills of NY and New England just fine and still got sometimes 12mpg.
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Anyone ever found PROOF. (not my brother-in-laws best friends neighbor story) About weight (not above what tires/axles rated) being a issur? I have pulled LEGALLY over 20K behind 3/4 ton... I have a 3 axle (7000lbs each) 5th wheel trailer. I HAVE talked to insurance company AND DMV (as well as MN DOT) ALL have said I am legal.
Now I would not recomend most folks doing this. You have to have pulled alot over time and CUT YOUR SPEED> Know how to arange your load. Worst trip I had was a unbalanced load. I knew it but the work involved to unload/reload. I cheated with some heavy stuff and got it (ok) but not what it should have been.
3/4 and 1 ton (Esp Ford) trucks are the same until last few yrs. (front axle from one ton was swaped with 3/4 ton on a 01-02 truck for my neighbor. From the punkin (include) to the tires (not included)
I have looked at one ton truck. The ONLY reason I would desire a one ton over 3/4 is that the mentality MIGHT get to legislators and they will treat Ford/Chevy/Dodge numbers as FACT and not ways to avoid doing warrenty work. Actually lic tabs would be cheaper I am told. But some neighborhoods treat one ton trucks (esp duallys) as work trucks and not allowed on (our streets)
I heard some major roadway out East didn't allow any truck bigger then 3/4 on it?
Retiredguy, all the experts here will not help defend you in court, pay for your funeral or even admit that they suggested you tow overweight. There will however be weight police out on our highways to nab anyone exceeding the law soon because of the 'experts' who say it's OK, and talk about the 'actual' tow rating. The 'actual' tow rating is in your manual, period. Your truck is NOT rated to haul this trailer, sorry, it isn't. Many folks do it, many will do it, but not one of them do it correctly. Try as you might you can not, will not fully convince yourself that you're doing the right thing. Ford rated your truck at it's weight rating for a reason. Now it may be that your rear end gears could be changed and that would increase your tow capacity legally. Trade your truck for one that has the capacity to tow this trailer, or buy a smaller trailer. The highways are full of morons with WAY overloaded 3/4 ton trucks, please don't put yourself in the position to hurt anyone or yourself. You will never be able to take something catastrophic back, don't do it.
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