I just got to thinking... What kind of fines would someone run into, say, if their state registration was for 5k (even though the truck weighs more than that EMPTY) and they were for whatever reason scaled and tipped them at 10k GVW (the actual GVWR)? I understand it's probably going to be different in each state, but just generally speaking...Don't know how the Motor Vehicle Commission can actually let someone get away with registering a vehicle for less than what it weighs unloaded... Looks like I've got some paperwork to do
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'05 F-250 XLT 6.0 auto CC/SB 4x4 ESOF riding on BFG Rugged Trail's. Bone stock 'cept for the Sirius radio and tonneau cover 82k miles. Turbo replaced during previous ownership. HPOP fitting let loose, recall at 75k.
Sometimes the DMV people do it themselves by using their computer to give them the proper information which can have no basis in reality. I had this happen in NV.
I don't remember the fines but twice in Ohio they would not let the truck move. We had to send out another truck and transfer some of the load.I know that does not answer your question, but it is something to think about how they can get.
If you are a private resident over weight no one will ever know about it. I have yet to see any proof that DOT will pull private people and weigh them.
If you are a commercial rig hauling anything you will be parked and fined. Fines could range from 150-1500 depending on how obnoxious the DOT officer and you are.
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1996 F-250 extended cab long box five speed. Home made Tymar, 203 Stat, 60 gal in bed fuel cell, 315/75's, no muffler, ebpv welded open 3" to 3" DP, Babies. 290K, still chugging, and still smoking when cold.
UPDATED 8/1/08 Replace so far. 1 LUK flywheel+clutch, 2 thermostats, 2 set of brakes, 1 set of calipers, 5 CPS, 3 sets of tires, 2 Transfer pumps, 1 Injector modual, 1 Computer, 2 Alt, 2 sets of batteries, 1 Water pump, 6 Belts, 1 PS hose, 2 Sets ball joints, 2 set u-joints, 2 carrier bearing, 2 Speed sensors, 1 oil pres sender, 1 temp sender, 4 sets of e-break cables, 1 front fuel tank, 2 rear fuel tanks, 2 set of glow plugs, 6 Glow plug relays, Oil galley o-rings, Turbo pedistal o-rings, EBPV o-rings, 3 sets of Injector O-rings, 1 Vac-pump, 1 new carpet.Total $$$ in repairs v/s miles driven = 3.0 cents per mile. Add fuel to that it jumps to 14.8 cents per mile over the life of the truck.
If you are a private resident over weight no one will ever know about it...
Not if you are in California. The highway patrol has started pulling over people towing large 5th wheel toy haulers to check if they have the correct license or endorsement to their existing license. If they don't have the correct endorsement or license, they get a fine. Why? I won't say...
I've passed quite a few chicken coops in my travels that have signs on them saying ALL vehicles over 4 tons GVW, some say 5T. I don't usually haul that heavy when going by these stops so I don't know how strict they are about making private horse trailers/RV's pull in. I can say I did pass right by one with the dually work truck and 14k horse trailer and they didn't come looking for me. Maybe they was nappin' I just was wondering how fine a line I'm walking by only having the truck registered for 5k and what would happen if'n I was to get caught being under-registered.
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'05 F-250 XLT 6.0 auto CC/SB 4x4 ESOF riding on BFG Rugged Trail's. Bone stock 'cept for the Sirius radio and tonneau cover 82k miles. Turbo replaced during previous ownership. HPOP fitting let loose, recall at 75k.
I Can Tell You From Exoerience In Iowa The Dot Does Pull Over Private Vehicles And Issue Tickets, I Can Also Tell You That In Most States If It Says Over 4ton Stop And Weigh They Really Want You Too Especially If You Have A Trailer, Its Not Hard However Expensive To Upgrade The License Weight On Your Truck Just Tell Em You Want It For X Amount Of Weight If You Pull A Normal Load Of Say 15,000 And Your Truck Weighs 10000 You Want 25,000 No Extra Ne Thing On Your License You Are 100% Legal
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I Can Tell You From Exoerience In Iowa The Dot Does Pull Over Private Vehicles And Issue Tickets, I Can Also Tell You That In Most States If It Says Over 4ton Stop And Weigh They Really Want You Too Especially If You Have A Trailer, Its Not Hard However Expensive To Upgrade The License Weight On Your Truck Just Tell Em You Want It For X Amount Of Weight If You Pull A Normal Load Of Say 15,000 And Your Truck Weighs 10000 You Want 25,000 No Extra Ne Thing On Your License You Are 100% Legal
How does something like this work with Oregon plates?? I have a F-250 that is 8.5k GVW, but my plates/registration are not weight related, nor am I considered a commercial vehicle. So what do they weigh me for, especially if I'm towing my TT??
OMC
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Feb 03 6.0 Silver F-250 SD SC XLT long box, 6-spd 3.73ls, Fx4, Stock, Spray-in liner, Contico box.HARPOONED.
most pickup licenses are for 6000 weight of vehicle---they are in iowa--and over that too much---fines--and there are some real wonderful dot pukes in the state of iowa. i had a hwy patrol tell me the dot in iowa had more authority than them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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94 f250 idi turbo sc e4od alum fac rims 149,289 --dana 60 frt with posi--10.25 rear w/posi--shouldnt get stuck!! ats turbo 3" parts on--what a diff from stock turbo!!!!!--- also 96 F250 with 305,000 is fixed!!-- 7.3 rattler-also 85 6.9-needs new engine!! tired!!
I have been pulled over by the MN DOT before. I was towing the 14K gvw dump trailer with my wifes Excursion. When he walked up the truck/trailer the first thing he did was peek in the trailer to see what I had in it. Being there was only some materials in it he didn't weigh me. He then looked at the gvw of the vehicle and trailer. If over 10K lbs total you have to be DOT complaint if used for work.
What he did do is give me a bunch of warnings.
Expired tab on trailer
Non working break away breaks
No health card
No letters on work vehicle
I was really nice and acted as stupid as possible and he let me go with no tickets. Thought there was one or two more warnings but it's been at least three years ago.
In all my travels in MN have never seen a truck and trailer outside of work pulled over by the DOT. They target semi's, straight axle large trucks, and pick ups with work trailers.
A friend of mine transports cars for a living and he's never been touched by the DOT in any state.
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99(4/99)F350 PSD 4X4 crew cab long bed dually lariat isspro triple pod air bags with compressor
99(6/99)F250 PSD 4X4 X-cab short bed xlt 5in str8 piped air bags autometer ultra light triple pod junk yard pcm running 22 psi 250k miles bought 8/15/01 w/40k miles first diesel
00(12/99)Excursion PSD 4X4 limited
65 Mustang 289 V8 4brl 69 GTO 400 4spd 99 Neon R/T
04 and 09 PJ 15k dump trailer 04 H&H 9K tilt bed 98 Haulmark 7x14 enclosed
In my experience, nobody checks weights on personal vehicles or commercial SRW vehicles unless it looks grossly overloaded.
EXCEPT, I've seen highway patrols doing roadblock style checks near fishing and vacation areas for proper towing setups and insurance. Usually just advisory except for really unsafe setups.
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95 F350 Crew 5spd/4.10, SuperChips tuner, solid flywheel, T444E waterpump, 205° stat, Locked F&R, 9.00R16 Michelins
97 E350 SRW cutaway, E4OD/D70/4.10, 19.5" wheels & 16ply rubber, BD-Power trans pan, relocated batteries w/marine switch, 1800W inverter
84 C30 Suburban, 6.2/4-spd, 3.21s
Other rigs I goof around with regularly:
93 F350 4x4, 7.3 IDI turbo, 5spd, 4.10s
90 F250 4x4, 7.3 IDI, 5spd, 3.55s, D60 swap, straight pipe, turned up fuel screw
My 1 ton truck was registered as a 1/2 ton truck and it worried me. I wanted that corrected and I was also worried about fines for being overloaded.
I have a 110 gallon desel tank in my truck and a toolbox with 3-400 lbs of tools in it. I was way over my titled GVWR "empty" with my diesel tank full and my tools in there.
I went round and round with TxDOT trying to convince them to up my GVWR to match my door sticker GVWR of 9200#. I FINALLY got TXDOT to up my weight class and up my registration to the full 9200# GVWR on my door sticker. It took numerous phone calls, e-mails and a couple of letters. They wanted me to go weigh my truck "as outfitted" and then they would add 2000 pounds to that. I told them that if they made me go weigh my truck, I would fill up the diesel tank, put All my tools in there and THEN go weight my truck. I assured them that that would put me up where I wanted to be. That is when they finally gave in.
I didn't see what the big deal was. I explained that both the US DOT, Ford, ect... had already approved my truck to legally carry that weight or it wouldn't be certified to carry it to start with. I was giong to pay the additional license fees and I WANTED to be legal. I had to use all of my persuasiveness on them and it still took weeks.
It only added a few dollars to my license plate fees. I don't even think it was $5 more. That was cheap for the peace of mind that it would be harder for Johnny Law to screw me over.
Mark
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1997 F-350, 4x4, CC, LB, BTS E4OD, 3.55 Gears. Bean's Stage II 160cc Injectors With Custom EDM'ed Nozzels. Tony Wildman 6 Position Chip. Dieselsite H2E; 203° Thermostat; Tru-Cool Max LPD-47391, V-10 Trans Cooler. DIY Fuel System - 10 Micron Pre, Bosch 984 Pump, 2 Micron Post, Aeromotive Regulator, pressure safety switch. Tymar Intake. Full Boar 4" Open Exhaust w/3" Down Pipe. Warn Premium Hubs. Autometer Pro-Comp II Trans Temp and Pyro, Banks Boost Gauge. HPO Crossover Mod. Dual Tensioner Installed. CCV Mod.
Last week I upped my E350 from 9500# to 10,900#. They changed it right there as they renewed my insurance. No fuss.
Back when I bought it, the reg'd GVW was too high. It was net weight + 50% which was much higher than the GVWR. The agent refused to make any changes as she had the slip from the scale station right there. A few days later, I took a picture of the door jamb decal, printed it, and took it with me to get insurance at another broker's office. (No scale slip this time). They changed the reg. on the spot to match the decal.
IMO, the difficulty in making these changes depends on who is working the counter that day. They are used to people requesting dubious changes. If they decide to get defensive, you don't have much recourse but to refine your request and try to impress a fresh face next time.
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95 F350 Crew 5spd/4.10, SuperChips tuner, solid flywheel, T444E waterpump, 205° stat, Locked F&R, 9.00R16 Michelins
97 E350 SRW cutaway, E4OD/D70/4.10, 19.5" wheels & 16ply rubber, BD-Power trans pan, relocated batteries w/marine switch, 1800W inverter
84 C30 Suburban, 6.2/4-spd, 3.21s
Other rigs I goof around with regularly:
93 F350 4x4, 7.3 IDI turbo, 5spd, 4.10s
90 F250 4x4, 7.3 IDI, 5spd, 3.55s, D60 swap, straight pipe, turned up fuel screw
Not if you are in California. The highway patrol has started pulling over people towing large 5th wheel toy haulers to check if they have the correct license or endorsement to their existing license. If they don't have the correct endorsement or license, they get a fine. Why? I won't say...
They want to see if you have commercial plates or not. If you want to put ANYTHING in the bed of your truck with the exception of a suit case or groceries it had better have commercial plates. It does not matter that the truck is used for personal non business purposes.
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97 F-250 ex-cab autotrans,downpipe,3gauge,pillerpod,aux. tran.cooler and filter,air bags. SOLD
New ride:2005 F-350 Lariat Ex-cab 4x4,Auto meter gauges and more to come
I understand it's probably going to be different in each state, but just generally speaking...Don't know how the Motor Vehicle Commission can actually let someone get away with registering a vehicle for less than what it weighs unloaded... Looks like I've got some paperwork to do
F-250 XLT 6.0 auto CC/SB 4x4 ESOF riding on BFG Rugged Trail's. Bone stock 'cept for the Sirius radio and tonneau cover 
82k miles. Turbo replaced during previous ownership. HPOP fitting let loose, recall at 75k. 
Maybe they was nappin' 
I just was wondering how fine a line I'm walking by only having the truck registered for 5k and what would happen if'n I was to get caught being under-registered.
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