Pulled my Fifth wheel with my F-450 at 22,000 lbs it did not hesitate for a second. Every hill with no down shift unless I punched it and no shudder on take off. Everything was smooth and quiet unlike my F-350 that would start to make this nasty high pitch squeal on any good size hill. Anyway here are some pics.
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If the trailer really does gross 22k when wet and loaded, then you probably need almost all of the 33k GCWR of the F-450 with the high capacity towing pkg.
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My Sierra Blanca is a '99.5 PSD CrewCab hot-rod Towing Machine! BTS tranny; TurboRamAir intake and 4" stainless turbo-back exhaust; DP-Tuner tunes flashed into an Edge Evolution tuner; ISSPRO EV gauges and TTM; AIC; SP-Diesel exhaust brake and torque converter controller. I special-ordered it new and plan to drive it until it quits.
That is the weight I will be hauling with our 450. Our Teton is listed at 22,000GVWR but I suspect it will be at that and maybe more. If only I could figure out how to post pictures I would. The 450 colors go welll with the stripes on the Experience.
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2008 F-450 Lariat Dark Stone Metallic over Pueblo Gold 4x4(manual shift transfer case, manual hubs), High capacity tow 4:88s, Off Road, Camper packages, Sirius Sat, Upfitter switches, DVD entertainment, tailgate step, traction control, Audiophile 6-disc, PTC Supplemental heat and heated seats(warm buns), rear sensors, traction control, tailgate step. Built May 8, delivered May 24
Reese Signature Series 24k fiver hitch, I installed it myself, best hitch I have found yet
Line-X bedliner, heavy duty floor mats
2003 Sunline F281SR(weekend getaways)
SeaRay 215EC http://community.webshots.com/user/C...host=community
Your camper makes the 450 look like a 150. A big camper. If you lived in the south your camper would need 2-3 a/c's mounted on the roof. Today it got up to 98 and one unit just would not cut it.
Totally awesome setup. Very impressive. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]
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2008 F350 SRW CC Lariat,6.4,20 inch wheels, Spray in Boxliner,Retrax Roll top cover, Bluetooth, Warn Transformer with M12000 winch and SST Cover,HID Lights, Dual 150 watt Daylighters.5 inch Magnaflow exhaust. etc.
Really nice setup there guy! Man,, that is a HOUSE your pullin!
And a mighty nice one at that!
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
Hey, why did you change your name?????? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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2006 F350 4X4 Dually, Tow Boss, Crew Cab, Lariat... man does this thing tow, Inyati Spray In Bedliner, Autometer Z Series Gauges towing a 2006 LE3905 Weekend Warrior
God is that a nice set up!! The truck REALLY makes me jealous as it is, then you have to go and throw a toy hauler from heck on it too!! Man, I want one of those 450s SOOOOO bad, just aint got the jack right now, the ol 250PSD will have to do for awhile. I wanted to triple tow my Harley trailer behind my 30 fiver, but the southeast states where I work (NC,SC,Ga,Fl) dont allow it, so I have to leave the toy(s) at the house dammit. Someday a toy hauler with the big truck..........
Mo
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**97 F250HD Supercab, PSD, 5-spd., 4.10, long bed, fpr mod.,HPX mod, 203 stat, Diamond Eye 4" exhaust, AFE intake and Scorpion switch chip.
**03 F150 Crew, Harley Edition, blower motor, chipped, exhaust, intake, lowered 3, fast
**01 Fatboy, 95" motor, cam, exhaust, ported/polished, rolls out!
**07 Screaming Eagle Dyna, all the goodies, 110" motor, torque monster, wheels up third gear
At this time I will live vicariously thru you. That is very impressive, you could house a small army in there and tow there toys too. All I can say is WOW! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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2006 F350-Lariat, CC/SB 4X4 SRW-Wedgewood blue
6.0L PSD, Auto, 'with all the goodies' except the moonroof, born 23/3/06
BCP mod-switch #4, CAC tube secured
Zoodad
LEER Canopy and Chrome stepbars, Draw-Tite 18k Signature Series hitch
Line-X bedliner
Sirius Satelite Stereo
Alarm/Remote start
2000 26 ft Frontier Plainsman fiver - 11k loaded
Looking to add LCD monitor/gauges, back up lights and intake elbow soon
Well as someone once said "terrable (sp) mileage for a truck, great mileage for a house" !
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96 Ford Powerstroke, Centarus Converson CC, 4.10, Long bed DRW, 4 pos TWildman chip, SD HPOP, 6.0 Intercooler, 3.0 downpipe and Bully Dog 4.0 exhaust, AFE intake system, pyro (pre turbo),trans gage (located in test port), Custom Fabion Motosports Torque Converter, pump mods, Tugger trans kit, Torqueshift tranny cooler, Firestone air bags, Rancho RX 9000 adjustable shocks, and baby SWAMPS!!
Pulling a 2000 American Star, 34RLCK bedroom and living room slides, w/d stack ,12,640 lbs.
Total weight 19,300. New addition 20ft VIP Bowrider boat towed behind 5th wheel, total length 74 ft, 24,000 lbs!
Wow, what a trailer. We have a 38 foot Keystone Raptor but it is about 8000 pounds lighter than your rig. With this type of weight, you are exceeding the 33,000 pound combined weight limit of your truck plus the fact you are probably bumping up against the towing capacity as well unless you have the high capacity package. Even with that, your capacity is only 24,000 pounds and given the fact you are fully loaded, you have no fudge factor. As a safety measure, you may want to have your rig weighed to determine how much weight you have over your rear axle. The one picture really shows your 450 squatting pretty good which translates to a lot of weight pushing down on your suspension and axle. I barely see any squat on my truck with my 5ver on it. Not trying to be a party pooper, but you have too much trailer even for the mighy F450 and even though it will pull it fine, you are most likely not legal and more than that you are most likely pushing the boundries of being safe as well which is even more of a priority for your passengers and those people driving around you. There have been many strings on this forum related to how much can you tow legally and safely and many might say you need to bump up to a larger truck like the Top Kick type trucks! Again, great looking trailer, just not enough truck.
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2008 F350 SuperDuty Crewcab
2007 Keystone 3814 Raptor Toy Hauler
2004-Sportsman 700 EFI
2006-TB250
2008 Yamaha Raptor 250SE
2-Yamaha TTR's with 2 boys who only know one speed
1985-Wellcraft Elite 210/265HP Mercruiser