That's OK, it wasn't your fault, I tend to step in and get long winded and say the things some people dont want to hear. But if we dont keep exploring this subject and nail down an answer how are we ever going to know.
What would be nice is for one person in each State to research their State and find out what their State tells them to the exact same questions, compile all the answers and then forward this on up to someone higher in the Federal Govt. then maybe we will get a definative answer as to what the real answer is.
Only then will all of us Back Room Lawyers quit arguing about this age old question. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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that's the problem with this topic. There are too many correct answers. There are also too many wrong answers. It has been said time and time again that people will get different answers from different DOT officers from the same state. Also, people think because they haven't had any trouble doing what they have been doing for the past howmany years that it is the correct thing to do. In fact it might be the wrong thing, they just haven't been reprimanded yet. It also seems that states' laws differ just slightly here and there, and that slight difference seems to cause alot of confusion between people. I'd be more than happy to research MA laws. It is on their website. CDL handbook for PDF download. Oh yeah. good luck with this thread.
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Fish..I may have come off wrong on that other thread..
You are right that States laws can vary widely...However may main point is that Federal laws supercedes State laws...Once you cross the legal line..you need to be aware of Federal laws. As I say, you can and will be under Federal laws even if you never leave your State..
Just something else to research...
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What would be nice is for one person in each State to research their State and find out what their State tells them to the exact same questions, compile all the answers and then forward this on up to someone higher in the Federal Govt. then maybe we will get a definative answer as to what the real answer is.
Only then will all of us Back Room Lawyers quit arguing about this age old question.
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I doubt that even then the arguing would end. I have, on many occasions posted what the law here in Missouri says about various weight/licensing issues. Even though it's my job (as in real job, not moderator job) to know what the Missouri law says, nearly every time, someone has come on here to debate it and say that they had a different experience. To that I can only comment that the best course of action is always to ask what the law says. But when you ask that question, be sure that is exactly what you ask..... If you start asking what you can get away with (or some variation of it), you will get the opinion of the individual you asked, due to that person's interpretation and/or a little thing called "officer discretion". While you might get away with what that officer/individual told you most of the time, there is always a chance you will not. However, if you are 100% in compliance with what the law says, you will "get away" 100% of the time.
Just my $.02
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That other thread is closed, I'm not one who's got to have the last word, I've said my final thoughts, and I'm not gonna discuss it any further.
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I agree with that 100% of the time! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
In a way thats where I started with the other thread - I wasn't implying the information I got was correct, or even the most correct - it was simply a reprint of my e-mails with the PADOT website assistance portal.
While I realize that some of the information I was given is suspect (some of it disagrees with everything else I know) it does give me a basis for what I would consider to be "minimum" compliance. The CDL question is actually moot for me since I have a valid class A CDL, but I thought the feedback was interesting.
As far as situational compliance (as in a cop with a bad attitude) if the documentation I have isn't sufficient for him, at least I have something to present to the court later on. My feeling is if I do what the DOT tells me to, then at the very least I can plead that I followed the instructions I was given in good faith. If a compliance issue arises later, then I will be willing to comply, but I can justify my configuration at the time of the issue.
I'm sure other states DOT's have similar websites and possibly assistance portals - and perhaps the best feature of these resources is that they generate a permanent record with the state, and a document for us.
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