I have an '06 F250 with the 6.0 diesel and stock 12k receiver hitch. I'm looking at buying an 18k equipment trailer with a lunette ring. I've been able to find plenty of bolt on 18k+ pintle hitches, but I can't find any 2"x2" pintle mounts that are rated about 10k (or 2.5"x2.5" either). Any suggestions on where to find a pintle mount that is rated for 18k or more? Any suggestions on a new receiver hitch for my truck that can handle 18k? (I assume it will have to be a 2.5"x2.5" receiver hitch). Will my truck have any issues towing around 18k? The MCGWR is 23,400 (I think) and the truck weight around 6,300. Thanks.
My CGWR is 23,000, so if 16,400 is my max gooseneck, then I guess the truck weighs around 6,600. The factory hitch is rated for 12,500. If I bought an aftermarket hitch that was rated for more weight, could I pull more than 12,500 with a conventional trailer? I think the 2" receiver is what's limiting the factory hitch. I think a 2.5" receiver would let me pull more. Thoughts?
My CGWR is 23,000, so if 16,400 is my max gooseneck, then I guess the truck weighs around 6,600.
Most likely that 6,600 weight figure is for a base truck (no weight adding options) with the lightest engine and tranny available, with 150 lb driver. You need to weigh your truck to see what the figures are.
Your limiting factor will be GAWR and GVWR most likely. With a tag trailer you can pull more because the tongue weight should be less than the pin weight of a gooseneck or fiver of the same weight. The figures from the towing guide are based on numbers pulled from vehicles that give the highest rating, not real world weights.
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I have an '06 F250 with the 6.0 diesel and stock 12k receiver hitch. I'm looking at buying an 18k equipment trailer with a lunette ring.
You'll be severely overloaded. Not just the receiver, but the overall truck.
Your GCWR is 23,000. Your GVWR is probably 10,000. Ignore the towing guide numbers as others have mentioned, and weigh your wet and loaded truck. Subtract the weight of your wet and loaded truck from the GCWR and that will tell you the max trailer weight you can safely tow. Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded truck from the GVWR and that will tell you the max hitch weight you can have without overloading the suspension and frame of your tow vehicle.
"Wet and loaded" means full of diesel, and including all the tools and passengers and other stuff you will normally have in the truck when you have that trailer tied on. Your rig will probably weigh aat least 8,000 pounds wet and loaded. So that leaves 15,000 pounds max trailer weight and 2,000 pounds max hitch weight.
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Any suggestions on where to find a pintle mount that is rated for 18k or more? Any suggestions on a new receiver hitch for my truck that can handle 18k?
Scroll down past the lightweight jobbie and look at the one rated 18k. Notice it requires a a 2.5" receiver.
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(I assume it will have to be a 2.5"x2.5" receiver hitch).
And yes, you have to have a heavier-duty 2.5" receiver rated for 18k weight carrying. Those are rare too, with a weight-carrying (instead of weight-distributing) capacity of 18k, but I found one. Hidden Hitch Titan has 18k weight carrying max trailer weight and 2000 pounds weight carrying max hitch weight. Click on this, then scroll way down until you see it: Hitches, Receiver Hitches; Hitches Online
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Will my truck have any issues towing around 18k? The MCGWR is 23,400 (I think) and the truck weight around 6,300.
If your wet and loaded truck weighs 8,000 pounds and your trailer weighs 18,000 pounds, that's 26,000 pounds GCW. Your GCWR is 23,000, so yes, you'll be overloaded by 3,000 pounds. No big deal on the flats, but when you get into hills and mountains, you'll be in trouble.
For that load you need a truck with at least 27,000 or 28,000 pounds GCWR. That eliminates the F-350 DRW and calls for an F-450 pickup which has 33,000 GCWR, or an F-450 chassis cab with the high-capacity towing pkg which has 30,000 GCWR.
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SmokeyWren,
Thanks for the info. One of the hitches you provided a link for is a 2" receiver with a 15k load rating. That's pretty much what I'm looking for, but I can't find a 2" pintle mount that is rated from more than 10k. Has anyone seen one rated for at least 15k?
You'll need to have a hitch custom made. The only ones out there that exist are built for chassis cab trucks. I believe they are rated in the 25k area. Reason why what you are looking for doesn't exist, is because that is way too much weight for SRW pickup truck. Have something custom made if you really want to pull that much weight.
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Doubt if a custom hitch builder would chance the upcoming liability for such a hitch. There would be lots of white knucle moments resulting from such a set up/load. An old OTR commercial driver speaking
I mentioned this in another pintle hitch thread. If you look at trucks around town pulling a large pintle hook trailer they are all larger class trucks, dump, or utility trucks, with the pintle hitch just aft of the rear axle. Very little distance from the axle to the hitch meaning that under braking the load shift of the trailer will not be trying to lift the front end of the tow vehicle off the ground. Your truck will have a huge overhang by comparison and none of the truck weight to offset it. If you are going to pull this much weight you need a weight distribution set up to combat this issue, not a pintle hook.
Doubt if a custom hitch builder would chance the upcoming liability for such a hitch. There would be lots of white knucle moments resulting from such a set up/load. An old OTR commercial driver speaking
Agreed. But I don't know how else he can get a hitch rated for that weight.
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