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Old 04-26-2006, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone installed a tankless water heater in a trailer?? I've been looking at these:

http://www.plumbingsupply.com/eemaxso.html

Only thing I'm not sure of is this statement:

"When ordering, please be sure that the
temperature rise is adequate for your needs.
Operating pressure: 25psi min/100psi max"

Anyone understand it? Thanks.
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Water Heater

The temperature rise refers to how much the water heater can heat the water at 1/2 GPM - the following chart is from that page, sorry the formatting didn't stay:


'SINGLE POINT' Models (flow controlled)
Cold water feed only.
Model# Volts kW Amps °F Rise
@ 1/2 GPM Price & Quantity
SP2412 120V 2.4kW 20.0A 33° $199.97
SP3012 120V 3.0kW 25.0A 40° $198.43
SP3512 120V 3.5kW 29.0A 48° $198.62
SP3208 208V 3.0kW 14.4A 40° $211.68
SP4208 208V 4.1kW 19.7A 56° $213.92
SP35 240V 3.5kW 14.6A 48° $208.79
SP55 240V 5.5kW 22.9A 75° $198.13
SP4277 277V 4.1kW 14.8A 56° $225.72


So the heater will raise the temperature of the water anywhere from 33 to 75 degrees F. Meaning if your gound water is 50 degrees, the low end heater will heat it to 83 degrees. I'm not sure what the flow of a shower in a typical RV is, but a low flow shower head in a home is 3 GPM, or six times the rated speed, so you wouldn't get the stated performance.

The other limitations are power and water pressure. You need a minimum water pressure, depending on model, and you need 50 amp service and heavier than normal wiring. This means you would need to rewire the whole line, and you would be restricted to high-end RV parks with 50 amp service and normal household water pressure. No boondocking!
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Re: Water Heater

I've checked these out to replace my water heater at my lake house with a whole house tankless water heater. If you search around, you will find some that run on propane or natural gas, as well as electricity. Bosch, Takagi, and Noritz all have propane tankless heaters available.
Do a google search for "propane tankless water heater". You'll get a lot of hits.
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Re: Water Heater

You also have to have a steady flow of water for the tankless heaters to work (turn on)..... most rv showers that I've seen don't work like the shower in your house.
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Re: Water Heater

Here is one specifically designed for RV's, costs $889 +.
www.houseneeds.com/shop/HeatingProducts/WaterHeating/rv/rv500waterheatermainpage.htm

Or do a google search on "propane tankless water heater for rv's".
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Re: Water Heater

The temp. rise is how much it will heat the water at a given flow rate (in this case its 1/2 gallon per min. -- which is about how much hot water you're using in the shower ). The SMALLEST unit they make gives you a 33 deg. temp rise @ 1/2 G.P.M. which means if the incoming water is 60 deg. the output will be 93 deg. which is a moderately warm shower at best. This also means you'll be using straight hot water so flow will be disappointing. This smallest unit also draws 20 amps. which is probably more than the outlets in your trailer are wired & breakered for. The outlets are usually rated for 15 amps. I'm not trying to spoil your fun but I don't see this as a viable option in a trailer, and--if this serves as a qualification of sorts--I'm currently on my third 5th wheel.
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Holy Cow!! When I began formulating my reply there were no responses to this thread, when I got back there were 4 or 5 (all stealing my thunder, no less!) Man I've got to learn to type faster!!
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Well that sucks! I was hoping the little one would work.. I saw the $800.00 one but was hoping to find something cheaper. Thanks for all the input.
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Re: Water Heater

Hi Neal,

Pretty hard to beat the 6gal DSI gas fired unit for RV use. If your wanting to save some LP just shut off the unit after you use it. 6gal of HW last us all day on one heat cycle.

The gas fired tankless work just great but the electric ones have severe limitations.




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