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Old 07-01-2007, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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whats a good brake controller

I am looking into a brake controller for my truck and my dads

is prodigy a good one? I see they make a harness that will use existing factory wiring.

for the money is they good?
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: whats a good brake controller


BRAKE SMART is THE BEST !

http://www.drperformance.com/brakesmart.html
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Re: whats a good brake controller

BrakeSmart all the way.
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Re: whats a good brake controller

Been pulling for 37 years or so. Prodigy is the one I use. haven't tried Brakesmart... not reason to change... very satisfied with Prodigy.

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Re: whats a good brake controller

Prodigy works great. The install is almost too easy. Shop around you can get them for a good price.

Brakesmart looks neat, but with the ability to control trailer airbags, and hydraulic connections it might be overkill for RV towing. The price tag is right up there too!
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Re: whats a good brake controller

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Prodigy works great. The install is almost too easy. Shop around you can get them for a good price.

Brakesmart looks neat, but with the ability to control trailer airbags, and hydraulic connections it might be overkill for RV towing. The price tag is right up there too!

[/ QUOTE ]A lot of larger trailers are going to electric over hydraulic disc brakes. The Prodigy and the like controllers are not compatible with some (most?) of the hydraulic actuators. BrakeSmart is. The other functions of the BrakeSmart controller, ABS, airbag controls, EGT monitoring etc. were all vaporware, ie., sounded good but never materialized. The hydraulic connections are really plug and play. If you have ever bled your brakes yourself it is trivial.
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Re: whats a good brake controller

well, I guess the question should me more so WHAT you are towing.

It seems like heavy trailers, Brake Smart is the way to go.

I've towed no more than 10,000lbs ish, and I've been using the Tekonsha Prodigy, and it's easy as pie to hookup and set up.
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Re: whats a good brake controller


nothin' is gonna be MORE accurate than the factory controller
OR the BRAKE SMART...they both use brake fluid <pressure>, not
VOLTAGE, or CURRENT to activate the brakes.

the brake smart is a TRUE progressive brake controller...apply
the brake a LITTLE (and hold it) and thats ALL the braking the
trailer will get.

the only other controller that comes close is the JORDAN
(which uses a cable).

i was stuck <brake smart was not in production> and for towing
my 18' car (flat) utility trailer couldnt wait....i went w/
a the Hayes Genesis (its one of the FEW controllers that can
display the CURRENT / AMP drawl...which allows you to determine
if ALL the brakes are working).
http://brakecontroller.com/genesis.htm

i see theres a NEW brake smart knock off now too...MaxBrake
http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/...-maxbrake.aspx

when we buy our travel trailer ill be installing a brake smart
for sure !
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Re: whats a good brake controller

I do not know if it is a BrakeSmart knock off, but it shore works good. By they way try this link http://www.brakecontroller.com/maxbrake.htm

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I purchased a maxbrake controller from brakecontroller.com and it works excellent. The braking action is super smooth without readjustment. There's no jerking on the trailer tongue. Even works with electric over hydraulic trailers. I pull several different size trailers cross country and the maxbrake works awesome! It's like magic. You can control your trailer brakes based on how hard or soft you press down on the brake pedal.

I have been trying to get Brake Smart for almost a year with no success. I am so glad I found the maxbrake! This is the last brake controller I will ever need to buy, bar none.
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Re: whats a good brake controller

The Brakesmart is available, I drove to DR and had it put in by them. The Max Brake looks like somthing out of a 1950's Sci-Fi space creature film. It does not seem to have the adjustability of the Brakesmart either. And again, I would not put that thing in my truck, maybe if it was a 1956 Ford PU and I was trying to keep a retro look.

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Re: whats a good brake controller

I went WAY retro.
Kelsey-Hayes hydraulic controller.
New old stock off Ebay.
Made in 1986, new in box.
Weatherhead 7921 brass tee from NAPA plumbed the hydraulic line right into my 2006 F 450 that didn't have ITBC.
Works with elec/hydraulic brakes, directly proportional to pedal apply pressure, no delay, no funky tell-tale nagging me when the ground via my ball is momentarily disrupted by hitting certain bumps, adjustable easily without looking at any display.
These work while ABS is engaged, no ill effects.
Whatever the scare was that obsoleted these old style units was BS as as far as my multiple thousands of miles of use has shown.
I guess that a worn out unit does leak brake fluid inside vehicle is the only negative I can find.

What does surprise me is that no one has come out with a Brakesmart or Maxbrake type device with an external pressure transducer that simply clamps onto a brake line for the pressure input for the electronic pressure proportional type system.
Clamp on pressure transducers are reliable and have been around for ages.
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I have had lots of compliments on the looks of the MaxBrake controller in my truck. However, looks will not get the trailer pulled available product and performance will.
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Re: whats a good brake controller

1st thing id do to that maxbrake is PAINT IT <BLACK>...
just like i did w/ my cheapie controller !

it may not be the most beautiful thing in the world
im just glad brakesmart has competition...after the way
they screwed around more than a year ago im sure theyve
lost some sales & market share... hopefully now theyll
drop their prices too !

anyone know if the maxbrake fits in the cubbie hole like
the brakesmart does ??
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The dimensions of the MaxBrake are: 6"W x 3"L x 1.75"H if this helps.
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