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Old 06-15-2005, 12:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering if any of the trucks (over the road) came with these engines? I seen a old 1980 379 Pete show truck with one in it for sale in a truck paper. It had a old air shift 6x4....I think tranny. Can't remember what brand of tranny it had though. Tim
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The 3408 was a pig on fuel. I don't believe this engine was used in an over the road truck since the very early 1980s.
It had an awesome sound, that's for sure!
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Pig is what I heard of them too. Did they ever come turbo'd?? Then they would really sound like a big PSD.
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yes they come turboed, although you will see alot of them on boats and fishing fleets.

They do sound cool in a tractor tho. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Here's one.

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Drove a manure spreader with one of these critters in it. Non turbochared but boy would it sling the cow dung.

The spreader was an early 80's with an International Chassis

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Yes the one thats in the paper is turboed with straight exhaust...six inch chrome pipes!!! What a exhaust note!!! Tim
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I've always wanted one of those with a turbo in a tandem/tri-axle!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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People liked them on the power side but the problem was there were no Jakes available so they tended to go down the far side of the hill even faster than they went up [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

I saw a picture of one that said "never late with my 3408"

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Re: 3408 Cat

I don't think the lack of a Jake stopped sales.
Unlike the Cummins (where the Jake could send you through the windshield), Jakes were worthless on all Caterpillar engines at that time.
Flip the switch on a 3406, and all you got was a little chuggin', but no brakin'.

Not until recently has Jake and Caterpillar really made some strides to get some retardation.
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I had an 1980 KW cabover with one, mine had a "brakesaver" it was worthless also.

I had a 15 over with 3:55 rears. Had real looooong legs but the harder you ran it the more it ate up the fuel.

MPG's in the 4's were pretty common, very hard to get it into the 5's

Neat looking though, I think thats all the guys who still run them like them for, chrome them up and open the hood, big WOW factor if nothing else.

Unless they are worked up real good my 600 Cat humiliates them, plus I can do it without collapsing my fuel tank [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

3408 DI was rated for 450 HP and 1400 ft lb's, really not alot by todays standards
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Another one in chrome this time
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I imagine the 3408 could be turned way up though, being a simple mechaincal CAT.
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Re: 3408 Cat

I remember about 10 years ago, we had a trucker with a 1000 cubic inch Mack V8, at least that's what I over heard.

I remember saying that it would rattle itself to pieces. Any of you guys know anything about a Mack V8? All I really remember about the truck is that it was a conventional cab with a really really boxy nose on the front end.

Wish I had a pic, I never was into Macks.
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The 3408, had two versions, in the 70's it was a precup IDI engine, then they turned them into DI engines both obviously came with mechanical injection pumps. Later they were made HEUI engines like our PSD's. I don't think Cat offers the 3408 in Construction equipment anymore, The D9T, 631/637G, and the other machines that used it, have inline 6's in them now. The C18 I believe. The old IDI 3408's had an awesome mean sounding exhaust note to them. If you ever see a CAT 631D or 637D scraper running, you should listen to the exhaust sound sometime, they have the IDI 3408 in them. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]


Mack had two V8's back in the day, one was a small V8 made in the 70's not really know for being a great engine, and the other was the E9. It was/is 998 ci, first introduced as a 400 hp in the early 80's I believe, then a 450, and then a 500hp in 1985. Which was the big kitty of its day, cat was still at 425, and I think Cummins just introduced the "lowflow" 444. They were offered in Mack over the road trucks until 1998 I think, then Mack took them out of truck because of emissions. The engine was still basically all mechanical injection. I was told they are in some of the older Military tanks two of them a 750hp each. It was a what i feel a good engine, but it had weak head gaskets, if you had one cranked up it would blow the gaskets, if you weren’t careful. We have one in a 88 Superliner, and the superliner with a stock pump setting will walk all over our 500 cummins, and both 550 cats. Never had a chance to run against a 600 before...but I'd think the 600 would take it. Fuel use was'nt to bad, it would burn the same amount as the 550's with similar loads 115k to 120k, if I ran with them, if I wanted make a point and pass them on the hills, then it was noticed at the pump when we'd refuel. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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