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Old 10-17-2009, 11:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4 Cyl Diesel? cummins 4BT?

hey, im new here and looking for a little help... i really like Diesels and i have 2 ford rangers... one is a 93 and one is a 84... i would like to re do my 84 from ground up and put a 4 cyl diesel in to it... i saw some stuff on the Cummins 4BT but i wasnt sure how well it would work and what trans set ups it would use... i found a post on here from 05 on it and they said there was a set up where they used a TH350 GM trans in it? be like in a ups truck? I'm open to any diesel motor... i would like it to be a turbo and not super rare.. something some what cheap as well... any other tips or thoughts please chime in and say them...

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I'd think a VW TDI would be a good choice assuming the electrical could be figured out.
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There was a 2.3-liter turboDiesel factory option in the 1980s. If you can find the parts, this is the most straightforward swap as all the engineering & design has already been done for you.

A 4-cylinder, 4-stroke Diesel engine has a LOT of torque ripple - much more than a gas engine of the same net torque output. You can't casually swap a gas engine out and a Diesel engine in without re-engineering the clutch/flywheel/harmonic damper/torque converter/et al.

If you're going to go to the effort of swapping transmissions, why select a 3-speed non-lockup non-overdrive THM350 when 4-speed lockup overdrive transmissions exist?

With or without an overdrive, you'll need a different final drive ratio - you definitely don't want to be cruising at 3000 rev/min. You'll probably also want something beefier than the stock 7.5-inch axle.

A 4BT is heavy. You'll need to change the front springs, and then you'll need to change the front shocks.
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box the frame, figure out how to have more verical rise in your engine compartment.
Having driven approx 375,000 miles with two separate 4X4 Rangers (1986 1994), I am a real fan of these trucks.
This will be not much harder than an early Bronco swap or a Jeep swap.
Good candidates IF you use a 4 wheeler chassis.
BTW: 4bt cummins engines can be found with FORD, DODGE and Chebby running gear.
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i know the diesel is alot more weight but i just like the... the ealry perkins are hard to find and harder to find one with a turbo on it... i thought about the VW's and a Marcidaes.. Sp.. but wasnt really sure how i would mount that motor on to a trans and t-case...

where are some good plasces to look for motors... i havnt had much time to look on here...

hey biblo have any pics of it? i want to see them both... i dont know what ranger to do it to... the 84 or the 93...
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Check out these couple articles. I've never done a swap like that but sure would like to someday maybe and a ranger would definately be a sweet ride with a diesel in it.

1998 Ford Ranger Cummins - Custom Diesel Trucks - Diesel Power Magazine Cummins Diesel Engine Swap - Cummins 4BT - Diesel Power Magazine
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Check out these couple articles. I've never done a swap like that but sure would like to someday maybe and a ranger would definately be a sweet ride with a diesel in it.

1998 Ford Ranger Cummins - Custom Diesel Trucks - Diesel Power Magazine Cummins Diesel Engine Swap - Cummins 4BT - Diesel Power Magazine

hey, i saw that yellow one... i just found it left me kinda asking questions... didnt really say too much on the work involved with it...

i didnt see the other one though... im gonna have to read that later on... thanks for the tip...
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ok is there anyone out there that has one of these in a truck right now? i just want some Dims of it... thanks
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do yoju think that this 4bt will fit in my 1990 yota pickup? whats the model name of the 3.3?
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It seems to me that I read somewhere the the 4 banger cummins weighs about as much as a chev 350. so basically I would say do the front end like yours setting up to do a V8 swap. There are plenty of rangers out there with 302's
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