Does anyone know anything about the 7.8 Duramax?
My father-in-law is going to be ordering a new truck and right now he wants the 7.8 in it instead of the C7 Cat just because its a bigger engine. I personally think the Cat would give better milage and a better service life, but I'm not the one signing the check so I wont tell him what to do. I was just wondering if anyone here knows much about that engine and if it is of the same basic design as the 6.6L Duramax. Maybe just a stroked version?
If you want to know about the 7.8L Durmax, look up an Isuzu dealer and go see him. The 7.8L engine is an Isuzu, though GM may screw around with it to modify the HP and torque.
I entertained buying an Isuzu cab-forward with the 7.8L engine for towing my 5'ver....after seeing a crewcab I-6 diesel Nissan in Texas towing a 5'ver.
I visited the Isuzu/Ford dealer two years ago on the SW side of Dallas to look at one of these beasts. The 7.8L Isuzu is de-tuned so the HP is MUCH lower than the 6.0L Ford....down in the 200HP as I recall...and the torque was in the 500-550 ft/lb range...again as I recall. The salesman talked me out of buying one. He said the Isuzu would destroy my old kidneys (rides really rough) and the power, when compared to my '00 7.3L PSD was not there....said I would really regret it when I hit hills or mountains.
The engine looked like it was really set up for industrial/commercail use when you look at the air filters, etc. The salesman told me it costs as much to work on an Isuzu as a CAT and the parts were about the same costs as CAT parts.....bring money.
And on the crewcab model, which I wanted, you have to pull the entire cab off the frame to work on the engine. That would really be bad.
2001 7.3 F-350 Dually Lariat CC LWB 4X2 Dark Green 4.10 4R100 5'ver Hauler (32' Montana 2 slides 10,500# - 2,000# tongue weight), 106 gal aux tank, 198K miles, nephews arguing over who will inherit it 'cause I'm gonna' drive it 'til I die. Bone stock.
SOLD 2001 5.4 Gasser F-250 XLT Crewcab SWB 4X2 3.73 4R100 98K miles headed to 150K stock as the day it was made
Before these: '00 F-250 CC PSD, '97 F-250 CC PSD, '94 Ford F-150, '91 Ford E-250, '81 Ford E-150, '66 Ford F-100 (cars not included)
I would take the 7.8L Duramax. It's an in-line 6, the Isuzu 6HK-1TC. It is not related to the 6.6L Duramax V-8. The 7.8L has cylinder liners, a longer EPA rated service life than the C-7, and common rail injection instead of HEUI. It is a smoother running engine than the C-7. Cat parts are expensive, but so are Isuzu's, so there's no advantage there. As for fuel economy, I figure they are about the same if you compare like-rated engines. Also, the 7.8L is available up to 300 h.p./860 ft. lbs. this year.
Louisville Joe, L_Series_Joe, now Louisville_Joe.
I know a guy that has one in his Kodiac that he tows his "Toy hauler" with . HE LIKES it a ton he says,, but we work for GM and he may think he is being "Brand Loyal" WITH THE . [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img]ISUZU[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img] motor... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] nothing bad to say 'bout them,, just JAPANESE,,,, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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