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Old 09-08-2006, 10:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

That dosent explain the oil consumption!(The injector thing) the smoke will be rich fuely eye burning smoke!Oil smoke simply smells like oil burning!which do you have?The evidence is on your exhast manifold in my opinion!If it is the break in proseedure that has failed (my guess and several others)then you have a slim chance now of recovery try the break in oil as suggested.The injector therory dosent hold up in my mind givin your description of the problem!I highly doubt the breaking oil will help now ,but a lot of hard work might!Hook it up to somthing heavy and work its butt with the breakin oil and ya might have a chance!

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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

That or they're trying to sell you a new tractor. Only crank case oil burns blue smoke, not diesel fuel - black, gray or white. You probably have a bad oil ring in one of the cylinders. If you can run a full cyl compression test on them you will find it.
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

Would a tractor that only used a 1/2 quart of oil in 30 hours put out blue smoke?
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If it was a bad oil ring, wouldn't the tractor smoke worse at upper rpms and consume much more oil? The exhaust clears up considerably after 1500 rpms and is crystal clear above 2200. This is what has me confused. The oil consumption, like I said before, is minimal, I was working it hard when it burnt that 1/2 quart.
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

Mine John Deere blows blue smoke also and at time there seems to be a lot of it. Simular to the description of yours and I was concerned at first but I use zero oil between changes (150 hours or so). It starts and runs great.
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

Batfish, what is the model number of your deere? If it is the same then there might be a trend with these series of tractors.
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Deere, its a 870 with the Yanmar engine. It came off a golf course with around 200 hrs. Now I have around 1100 hr on it.
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Update on the tractor, I let John Deere service it and they found that all of my injectors were misfiring. So, they replaced all of them. I go to pick it up today and wall-lahh it still smokes. The smoke did clear up quite a bit, but still smokes a little at idle. The dumb coonass who worked on it told me that the compression was in specs. I then asked him why the smoke still and he replied it might need and overhaul so then I asked, if it has perfect compression why would it need to be overhauled and I got no reply.
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

compression isn't always the best way to determine an engines condition internally...usually it's just the easiest (versus disassembling and measuring/inspecting the internals)
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

As stated, compression doesn't tell the whole story. I have seen diesels (my dad has one) with perfect compression that blow so much oil by you need to add every couple hours.
Is the smoke only at idle now, and it clears up at higher RPM? could be a fuel timing issue. Just a thought.
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

A timing issue still does not explain the oil usage.You can have good compression and still have poorly seated oil rings however.Does the engine have blow by of any amounts?
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Re: Blue smoke on John Deere tractor, still no solutions

I'm coming in late here but if you need a great tractor website go to www.tractorbynet.com ,go to discussions page and then the J.D. page.

These guys are real good. I own a kubota and hang out in that section.

Let us know what happens.

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I am anxiously trying to post on tractorbynet.com but they will not allow me to post. The tractor has no oil leaks, no blow-by, nothing to signify the engine is remotely in trouble.
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Sorry, the engine only smokes at dead idle, after I rev it even 200 rpms, the smoke clears up quite a bit and has vanished by 1500 rpm.
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Sorry, the engine only smokes at dead idle, after I rev it even 200 rpms, the smoke clears up quite a bit and has vanished by 1500 rpm.

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Yep. same symptoms as mine. I usually run mine around 2500 rpm for mowing, bush-hogging and the exhaust is clear. Idling I get smoke and when I hit the throttle it will smoke but instantly clear up. The only differance mine does not burn oil and the oil is not getting any diesel in it either. I thought I had a bad injector o-ring or something but there definately is no diesel contaminating the oil either. It runs good. Idles smooth and starts great cold or warm. Just smokes blue.
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