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Old 08-28-2007, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Just purchased a 92 bus with the 6.6 6-cylinder turbodiesel. I know nothing about that engine. Does anyone have experience with it? So far, we have found that it is rated at 170hp at 2100 rpm, that is all the information we have.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Its a Brazilian Ford/New Holland Diesel. Uses the bosch inline injection pump. INSANELY low power, no load RPM OF around 2800 RPM can be spun up to 3400 going down hill using the engine to help slow the vehicle. Same family as the 7.8L Ford/New Holland diesel also made in brazil.

I have a 6.6L I-6 in my 89 F-800 boom truck (27,000 Lbs EMPTY). 7000+ hours 60,000+ miles. Damn little if any maintenance by the previous owners. starts great in cold weather and dosent burn hardly any oil with almost NO blow-by. Near bullet proof as any motor can get. Not enough HP to actually tear anything up.

If your looking to turn it up I would start by finding an intercooler setup from a junk yard and then adding a pyrometer and a boost gauge and then turning up the fuel.

what else do you want to know?
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Sounds like a good dependable working motor, goes anywhere does anything as long as you are not in a hurry, it's a mule.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

The Ford/New Holland Diesel engines were highly regarded for their dependability but as stated, not a super power house. Do remember though, that engine is from an era when most diesels were not zippy power plants like todays high revving turbocharged, after cooled electronically controlled engines. The recommendations for improving power were good but I would not expect to get too much more from this engine unless you know somebody in a fuel shop. Wow. I haven't even seen one of these in about 10 years!
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

I have a great running 6.6 here in a CF6000 cab and chassis. I can't give the thing away!!! People seem to be scared of them but it seems like a reliable engine.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

I'll take it!!!
I think most are scared of the parts & repair costs.
Got any measurements off of it by chance? I could use the length of the head & the overall height.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Just got back from a 380 mile road trip bringing the bus home. It ran great and would hold 60 mph up any hill we went on. Top speed 65 limited by rpm. Little to no smoke and used no oil and had no leaks!! Spent the day today removing the seats in preparation for a camper conversion. Brake system is hydraulic with engine driven pump. It seems that the boost piston is in constant motion when the engine is running; is this normal? Brake warning comes on when the key is turned on and the emergency pump operates-all is ok after engine start. So far, can't find any information on this type of brake system.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

I remember that Ryder used the 6.6's tied to Allison auto's in their fleet of F650's?? for consumer based 24' rental trucks back in the early to mid 90's IIRC. The startup you mentioned about brake warning before starting engine and the electric backup pump running was normal. After you start and the engine pump builds pressure, the electric emergency pump shuts off.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Yep, I had a whole fleet of ex Ryder and Penske F750's with the 6.6. I still have one running daily. I agree with everything said above, but i think the 91 will have an aftercooler already on it. I think the fuel plate etc used to turn up the 5.9 cummins will work on this pump, and a turbo upgrade is needed. Otherwise why wouldnt it run as good as any 89-98 cummins 5.9????
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

I think a 6.6 would be great in a pickup!
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: arisley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like a good dependable working motor, goes anywhere does anything as long as you are not in a hurry, it's a mule. </div></div>..........6.6L's=401 cid,we had one in a 1990 TW10 ford tractor,it had 110 hp,the TW 20 model had a turbo,hp was 135,the TW30model was turboed and intercooled,had 163hp,Rock solid power plant's never ever had any issue's with them,had over 12000 hr's total on the 3 of them and took vary little fuel, our's at the 110 hp lever used just under "2 gal's an hr" pulling a 18 foot disk with a 20 foot drag behind the disk @ 5 mph or a 5 bottom X 18" plow,that's 90 inche's of dirt X 10 inche's deep being moved@4 mph ,at that time ford had a 3cyl 52 hp @201 cid in the 4600 model and it used UNDER a gal per hr,it had over 5300 hr's when we sold the farm ,4cyl 70 hp @256 cid,and 6 cyl motor 110 hp @401 cid's,they used the same bore and stroke, piston's and rod's in all of them,our's had a CAV inline inj pump on the 6 cyl and 4 cyl,the 3cyl had a sime's rotery pump,fwiw,back then ford did build bullet proof diesel motor's IN HOUSE!!!!,never overhauled any of them,only thing we replaced was the waterpump's on the 6cyl&3cyl,the 4 cyl was never touched@just under3700 hr's,LOVED ALL MY FORD DIESEL'S I had, including my 2002 7.3 that I have now.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Have a friend who just got a Ford B700 65 passenger bus with a 6.6L Brazilian Ford in it. 30,000 miles! Sounds like a dependable engine.

I am new to diesels, and am learning my way through the 7.3 IDI...so I would love some links to info about the 6.6L if anyone has them. I'm mostly done with my first WVO conversion, and my friend wants to convert also.

Some questions:

Anyone converted these before? Tried blending fuels at all?

It has the Bosch PES injection pump...anyone have info on this IP?

What's the PSI needed on the inlet of the IP? Any more info on the lift pump?

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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

Your pump would be the PES-6A, or -6MW. It's almost the same as the P-pump they used on the 94-98 Dodges. I got info on how to turn up the pump, if you were looking at a little more power. Link in my signature. The lift pumps rarely go out, that's about all I remember about em.
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

well.

they as slow as all Heck and underpowered to boot. But they are damn dependable!
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Re: Bus with Ford 6.6 diesel

i have had both engines in trucks, the 7.8 was where the power was at, if you could call it that. all were dependeble, and gave no issues. shooting more fuel to them is possible, and makes a difference. i recently bought a bus with a reman 6.6 in it, only 30k miles on the engine. i will proably part it out, if i had the time, i would find me a f450 and stick that dude under the hood. gotta finish my cummins gmc conversion first!
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