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How much $$$ did you guys end up with in your conversions? with engines seperate if you don't mind.
I'm looking at purchasing a 95 F-350 crew cab dually 4x4 with a 460 but the only way I'd buy it is to put a diesel in it. I'm trying to figure out what I can do cheaper, a cummins or powerstroke swap.
Thanks, Jeff
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New Truck 2006 GMC Duramax/Allison 4x4 extended cab Long Bed. Stock for the next 3 years
96 F250 Powerstroke 5 Speed 4x4 4:10, LUK Single mass flywheel, EBPV gutted, TYMAR 3x4 DP and Straight 4" exhaust, Air bags up front with rebuilt Dana 50 and energy suspension bushings.
Isspro EV pyro & boost, Wildman 4 pos chip, JS IDM, SP perfofmance module, Baby Swamps. Gone Bye ByeMy Pics
Factory did not make a dually 4x4 crewcab in 1995. Some one has already started mods. Most that I have seen used spacers for the rear wheels and you still only have the 6250# gross axle rating. Read the axle code tags to verify which axle you have. The pick up dually axle was rated at 7400# and the chassis cab axle was rated at 8250# but will not bolt into a pick up because of the wide pick up frame versus the narrow chassis cab frame.
EDWARD
Sorry it's a Centurion conversion, factory dually front axle added and t case added.
-Jeff
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New Truck 2006 GMC Duramax/Allison 4x4 extended cab Long Bed. Stock for the next 3 years
96 F250 Powerstroke 5 Speed 4x4 4:10, LUK Single mass flywheel, EBPV gutted, TYMAR 3x4 DP and Straight 4" exhaust, Air bags up front with rebuilt Dana 50 and energy suspension bushings.
Isspro EV pyro & boost, Wildman 4 pos chip, JS IDM, SP perfofmance module, Baby Swamps. Gone Bye ByeMy Pics
I am not sure why a Body lift would be needed except for maybe an Allison. I am going to put a E40D in this winter. It has a ZF5 speed now but I hate to shift so its gonna have to go. I think its about as clean of an Install as your gonna find. Exhaust on the second page is out dated.
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I have seen this truck in person and its SWEET very clean, and looked great on the dyno too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
very interesting thread, I wanna do one in the '96 this winter, any one know how I can get a motor, there non existant around here...
Diesel Rod
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A '97 F250 with 295K miles, 90 LED's and 5" stacks, among other things....
A '96 F250 Reg cab with 210K miles, Needs to go away. PM me. '86 359 Peterbilt SHORT HOOD. The ongoing "project" it aint pretty but its got a 425 air to air Cat motor .....13 speed Eaton. Corvette Dash, 17 gauges, 8" black stacks, 63" flat top---> 36" sitting here waiting for paint. 1.305 Million Miles.
I don't know what I am doing, I just know I don't have time to do it.
Well I was wrong, it's a dually conversion. I'm not sure I want it now. I got them down to $5100 out the door tonight but it has some problems.
Does any one have an estimate on what it would cost to put the cummins in it? I was figuring around $2000 for the adapters plus engine and will probobly need a tranny rebuild in the near future.
Thanks, Jeff
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New Truck 2006 GMC Duramax/Allison 4x4 extended cab Long Bed. Stock for the next 3 years
96 F250 Powerstroke 5 Speed 4x4 4:10, LUK Single mass flywheel, EBPV gutted, TYMAR 3x4 DP and Straight 4" exhaust, Air bags up front with rebuilt Dana 50 and energy suspension bushings.
Isspro EV pyro & boost, Wildman 4 pos chip, JS IDM, SP perfofmance module, Baby Swamps. Gone Bye ByeMy Pics
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Does any one have an estimate on what it would cost to put the cummins in it?
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Jeff. Go on Google or any good search engine and type in ford cummins conversion and you'll come up with a lot of good info.... Good luck...
Al
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1991 F-350 XLT Lariat 4x4. Metallic Midnight Blue over Silver Gray.. Canadian Made. Now has 82000 miles. Std Cab SRW-7.3 With a Banks Stinger Kit. ZF-5 speed- 4:10. Five rear overload springs rated at 3000 lbs, Smitty Built side step tubes, mounted to frame with 1/2 " steel plate.. SteelHead sliding rear bumper. SteelHorse overhead panel with a Cobra 25. Dash mounted compass and altimeter, pillar mounted Banks pyrometer. 11.5 FT camper in the bed 99% of the time. Camper has been restored all the way out from it's frame. Camper has two #30 batteries, good for a week dry camping in the woods..
--- Two 1978 Bronco's- One stock 400 cu" and one Bombed 406 cu"--- 1972 E-200 van. 302 cu"--- 1975 F-600 with 361 cu" Industrial engine.
Thanks Al, I looked at a lot of the conversion sites and got a rough list of parts and adapters I'd need but (around $2000) I'm still wondering if theres some cost (parts) I'm not thinking about.
Thanks, Jeff
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New Truck 2006 GMC Duramax/Allison 4x4 extended cab Long Bed. Stock for the next 3 years
96 F250 Powerstroke 5 Speed 4x4 4:10, LUK Single mass flywheel, EBPV gutted, TYMAR 3x4 DP and Straight 4" exhaust, Air bags up front with rebuilt Dana 50 and energy suspension bushings.
Isspro EV pyro & boost, Wildman 4 pos chip, JS IDM, SP perfofmance module, Baby Swamps. Gone Bye ByeMy Pics
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Well I was wrong, it's a dually conversion. I'm not sure I want it now. I got them down to $5100 out the door tonight but it has some problems.
Does any one have an estimate on what it would cost to put the cummins in it? I was figuring around $2000 for the adapters plus engine and will probobly need a tranny rebuild in the near future.
Thanks, Jeff
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From what I've read, the Cummins engine itself will run $5000+ (if you buy one of those factory takeouts or out of a new wrecked Dodge), a transmission built to match/handle it will cost $4000 +/- a few $100, adapters, motor mounts, electronics, and incidentals will run another $2000 or so. So you're looking at least $10k or more just to get it running and driving.
With all that being said, I'd find a rough 89-93 Dodge D-250 Cummins and junk the truck and have the engine rebuilt and go from there. These trucks even with the Cummins can be found dirt cheap (less than $4000) if you look in the right places. Another benefit is having the mechanical injection and ease of making power with the 12v head.
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Traded in: 1995 Ford F-250 XLT Super Cab Longbed 4x4, 460, auto, 3.55's., K&N filter, glasspack duals. Miss everything about this truck but the gas mileage....
Some days you're the dog.....Some days you're the hydrant.
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Thanks Al, I looked at a lot of the conversion sites and got a rough list of parts and adapters I'd need but (around $2000) I'm still wondering if theres some cost (parts) I'm not thinking about.
Thanks, Jeff
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You're welcome Jeff. And like Deerepower said try to find and older 12 valve.. Keep your eyes open for a older wrecked dodge truck.(roll over or rear ended) you don't want major frontal damage. If you find a good "donor truck" take what you need and sell the rest. The 94-98 5.9's have the P7100 inline pump. They are very good... Go for it Dude!
Al
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1991 F-350 XLT Lariat 4x4. Metallic Midnight Blue over Silver Gray.. Canadian Made. Now has 82000 miles. Std Cab SRW-7.3 With a Banks Stinger Kit. ZF-5 speed- 4:10. Five rear overload springs rated at 3000 lbs, Smitty Built side step tubes, mounted to frame with 1/2 " steel plate.. SteelHead sliding rear bumper. SteelHorse overhead panel with a Cobra 25. Dash mounted compass and altimeter, pillar mounted Banks pyrometer. 11.5 FT camper in the bed 99% of the time. Camper has been restored all the way out from it's frame. Camper has two #30 batteries, good for a week dry camping in the woods..
--- Two 1978 Bronco's- One stock 400 cu" and one Bombed 406 cu"--- 1972 E-200 van. 302 cu"--- 1975 F-600 with 361 cu" Industrial engine.
That is what I have sitting in storage. A rolled 91 with a new tranny. I know the records since it was mine and my dad rolled it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Well I was wrong, it's a dually conversion. I'm not sure I want it now. I got them down to $5100 out the door tonight but it has some problems.
Does any one have an estimate on what it would cost to put the cummins in it? I was figuring around $2000 for the adapters plus engine and will probobly need a tranny rebuild in the near future.
Thanks, Jeff
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From what I've read, the Cummins engine itself will run $5000+ (if you buy one of those factory takeouts or out of a new wrecked Dodge), a transmission built to match/handle it will cost $4000 +/- a few $100, adapters, motor mounts, electronics, and incidentals will run another $2000 or so. So you're looking at least $10k or more just to get it running and driving.
With all that being said, I'd find a rough 89-93 Dodge D-250 Cummins and junk the truck and have the engine rebuilt and go from there. These trucks even with the Cummins can be found dirt cheap (less than $4000) if you look in the right places. Another benefit is having the mechanical injection and ease of making power with the 12v head.
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shift kit, DiPricol gauges, DI regulated return, Retrax Bed Cover
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That is what I have sitting in storage. A rolled 91 with a new tranny. I know the records since it was mine and my dad rolled it
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And are you selling it?
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1991 F-350 XLT Lariat 4x4. Metallic Midnight Blue over Silver Gray.. Canadian Made. Now has 82000 miles. Std Cab SRW-7.3 With a Banks Stinger Kit. ZF-5 speed- 4:10. Five rear overload springs rated at 3000 lbs, Smitty Built side step tubes, mounted to frame with 1/2 " steel plate.. SteelHead sliding rear bumper. SteelHorse overhead panel with a Cobra 25. Dash mounted compass and altimeter, pillar mounted Banks pyrometer. 11.5 FT camper in the bed 99% of the time. Camper has been restored all the way out from it's frame. Camper has two #30 batteries, good for a week dry camping in the woods..
--- Two 1978 Bronco's- One stock 400 cu" and one Bombed 406 cu"--- 1972 E-200 van. 302 cu"--- 1975 F-600 with 361 cu" Industrial engine.
no crap, I will drive to texas this winter. its gunna be a long one.
5 speed or auto???
Diesel Rod
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Formerly Diesel Rod.
A '97 F250 with 295K miles, 90 LED's and 5" stacks, among other things....
A '96 F250 Reg cab with 210K miles, Needs to go away. PM me. '86 359 Peterbilt SHORT HOOD. The ongoing "project" it aint pretty but its got a 425 air to air Cat motor .....13 speed Eaton. Corvette Dash, 17 gauges, 8" black stacks, 63" flat top---> 36" sitting here waiting for paint. 1.305 Million Miles.
I don't know what I am doing, I just know I don't have time to do it.
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425 air to air Cat motor 
.....13 speed Eaton. Corvette Dash, 17 gauges, 8" black stacks, 63" flat top---> 36" sitting here waiting for paint. 1.305 Million Miles.
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