Deutz Diesel Engines?

[416Rigby]

I've seen these air-cooled diesels on pumpsets, and other construction equipment over the years. And, I was wondering how durable and reliable are they? Do they last long? Thanks for any info.

[Trapper]

I have ran them before on concrete pumps, they seem to be pretty durable and easy to work on, you can usally find parts in major cities too.

[99SD]

If you're thinking about buying one, just be careful. Not all Deutz diesels are air cooled. Some are oil cooled. The air cooled ones are a much better engine, and waaaaaay cheaper to work on.

[416Rigby]

Thanks for the replies. I didn't think the oil-cooled versions were much different from the air-cooled engines. Are these expensive engines?

[WhiteF350]

I work at a welding supply store and we carry or welders to Atlanta to be worked on. We I was up there last Friday I seen a engine drive welder with a tiny two cylinder diesel...it was something that started with a r and was italian but made by Deutz. Tim

[416Rigby]

That must be Ruggerini, they make small diesels used on welders. But, I don't know their connection to Deutz.

[WhiteF350]

Thats it! The guy that works on them said they were pretty good engines, just kinda hard to find parts. Tim

[Nebraska_Farmer]

I had one on an irrigation well and it got retired at about 20,000 hours. By then it was shot. But that is a lot of hours to run. I have a 4 banger in a tractor and it runs cheap. They will use some oil all through out there life. They say about 1% of the fuel, and that is about right. If you were getting a new one nothing to be afraid of. Used ?????? All you need to do is keep the cooling fins clean. They are a bit expensive to work on. Kurt

[416Rigby]

Thanks again. Do they use much fuel? Are they noisy?

[DBogo]

how bout that for a deutz

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...31017&rd=1

[Nebraska_Farmer]

They aren't any louder than any other industrial engine. They are very easy on the fuel. Kurt

[cmcphee]

I have driven a couple of Deutz aircooled vehicles (MAN KAT 4x4, 6x6). The larger engines (12L and up) are pretty tough. I think working on them is pretty simple as well. The noise is an issue, it sounds a bit like an APU on a Jet, scares the heck out of pedestrians.

Technically they are all oil cooled as they have an oil cooler, however that's just a small radiator. I know the small engines are known to be bullet proof and you can even buy some filters in your local NAPA store (I have purchased filters for a 17L Tatra 930 at my local NAPA store using a cross reference). You just have to shop a little more and be persistant. Most people are like Who is Deutz ? not knowing they make diesels for everything from equipment to Gensets, trucks, to marine.

[cmcphee]

I think Ford had an air cooled Deutz in the 70's and 80's. I didn't know GM had one as well. Too bad they hadn't stuck with it instead of the worthless 6.2L of the 80's with the two bolt main. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bleh.gif[/img] Too bad this one is such a wreck, would make an interesting collectors piece.


Chris M

[DBogo]

if gm kept deutz i think there diesel sales would have been alot better then they were/are

[Scott B]

The air cooled Deutz's (912-913 series being the most common) are noiser than an oil or water cooled one due to no jackets. They are tanks though, and will run forever when maintained properly.

The oil cooled ones (1011 series most common) had some issues early on, mostly timing belts and head gaskets, but in the long run have proven themselves to be a pretty good engine.

Over the past 20 yerars we have had thousands in our fleet. It is still the engine of choice when we can get it in equipment, and will be for a long time. Parts are easy, your fiendly local Deutz dealer can help you, and if not we ship [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]