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Old 10-17-2005, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Can anyone tell me, is this a Cummins Diesel, How would I be able to tell. I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to diesel engines !!

Also, can anyone help me with alittle info on this engine. Pro's & Con's Just recently made the purchase. It have 69,000 miles on it and runs great, have questions about cold weather starts, fuel economy.

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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Well the Cummins was the only 8.3 that Ford put in their trucks, from the early 90s on I believe. It should have the regular data plate on the curved portion of the gear train cover, where it on the drivers side front of the engine, in front of the injector pump. May have been painted over but a wire brush will take it off hopefully.

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Old 10-17-2005, 11:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Thanks for the information, I will take a look tomorrow and see if I can find it. Do you know will it tell me somewhere 250 hp. Someone told me this is what they called the million mile motor. Have you ever heard this in reference to this motor.

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Old 10-18-2005, 10:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

The motor is nothing special, it is decent but had its own issues like anything...yes the data plate will tell you model, serial, CPL, and horsepower

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Old 10-18-2005, 07:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Birken has filled you in on the engine. I personally like the little things. Out of our trucks with this engine I have two over 300,000, but I honestly don't expect much more. A million miles is just beyond all designs of a small block. You'd be very lucky to get 500,000. We also have had one F800 with a tad over 500,000 on the chassis and it was a wreck. The trucks that the small blocks are put in just can't last that long so there is no need for the engine to.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Thanks for your input, we bought this F800 4X4 dumptruck and its in great shape all the way around. It has 69500 original miles on it, was ex-govt, well maintained. It has only 1 (one) mile on the front 4x4 meter, and I believe this to be correct. So it looks like I may get many more miles out of it since I am willing to maintain it 100%.

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Old 10-19-2005, 11:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

I still have yet to find that plate with the information, was wondering it you could tell me about the block heater,would it be best to leave plugged in all the time when the temp get say below 20 ? I live in ALaska and will use it for (snow-removal/sanding). Would this be hard on anything ? It also doesn't have glo-plugs so how does one tell when its ready to start ? At present I turn the key on and can hear like a growl under the hood, I wait till this growl stops then fire it.

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Old 10-19-2005, 11:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

The early cummins engines normally had an ether system installed for cold starts and a block heater. They don't use glow plugs and the last F800 I worked on didn't have the intake heater system so the block heater and ether was the cold start system. I personally like the Cummins 8.3L, basically just a larger 5.9 used alot of the 5.9's parts as well.
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

It is possible that the plate has been removed - if the cover/compartment has been replaced. It would be right in front of the injection pump (driver's side) on the curve of the timing compartment.

If it IS a 250HP or higher version, it SHOULD have the intake manifold heater. Basically looks like 2 big glow plugs mounted to the intake. If this truck IS as pristine as you say, there should be a sticker on the sun visor, and a light on the dash that says "wait to start".

If you don't have either of those, then you have 225hp or 210hp version. You should be able to keep it plugged in around the clock, but if you have a 'schedule' of sorts, then a timer will help keep the electric bill down. Ether can be used on the engines that do NOT have the intake manifold heater.

All that said.... we have a 275hp engine that starts like crap below 40 degrees, and I'll plug it in the night before I need to run it. It's done that since new, and only has 100k on it now. Last year we got a 225hp truck, and it will start anywhere, anytime, any temp. I have that one on a timer for a few hours before I leave. That's at 360k... I think you'll find the lower hp engines start easier in cold weather....

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Old 10-19-2005, 10:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Thanks Rodney for the information, I will look tomorrow for the dash light--maybe its burned out--or maybe I have something else like you stated,,and am still trying to find on the engine some sort of (ID)

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Old 10-20-2005, 12:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Hey Guy--I posted several pictures of the truck. Take a look for yourself--it's in (GREAT) shape for a 1993.


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Hey Guy--I posted several pictures of the truck. Take a look for yourself--it's in (GREAT) shape for a 1993.


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Under general photo's--Yellow F800---
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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

Was wondering if you could tell me, on the visor it says KBi system installed., when looking under the hood I see no such devise. Could this unit be hidden somewhere, does one of your trucks have this on it. Also have a question about the block heater, can I leave this unit plugged in all the time or just plug it in a few hours before I use it, I live in Alaska and plan on using the truck this winter to haul sand, snow, any input would be greatly appreciated....

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Re: Ford F800 8.3 litre 250 hp

KBi is an ether injection system for cold starts. <font color="blue">CLICK HERE</font> to see what they are. It cannot be used with glow plug systems - a trucking company I used to supervise a maintenance shop for had them on their 6V92 Detroit Diesels.

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